Greens lead crossparty MP bid to force Keir Starmer to scrap digital ID plans
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25547797.greens-lead-bid-force-keir-starmer-scrap-digital-id-plans/
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Greens lead crossparty MP bid to force Keir Starmer to scrap digital ID plans
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25547797.greens-lead-bid-force-keir-starmer-scrap-digital-id-plans/
Posted by evie-e-e
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We certainly won’t need ID cards in the borderless brave new world the Greens promise us in their manifesto!
I hope they succeed with getting this shut down, because otherwise this shit will be a goldmine for hackers.
It’ll also be yet another encroachment on privacy.
I really wish I could vote for the Green’s, but whilst they’re absolutely right on almost every issue, they just can’t seem to figure out a position on immigration that doesn’t just look like their heads in the sand. Also, they need to separate the religious fundamentalist arm of the party and double down on the actual Green stuff and this kinda stuff.
They should to Labour what the Reform is to the Tories. A real left competitor that is forcing them to assess how far they’ve fallen from the apple tree.
I’ll never quite understand what it is about being young and liberal and advocating for illegal immigration.
People really seem to have bought the idea that ID cards will fix illegal immigration. They won’t, they’re not meant to. That’s just something someone alluded to maybe being a possibility. And people want it to badly they’re supporting bad policy in the hope it will deliver…
ID cards are long overdue for the UK.
Public services and the benefits system are wide open for abuse by people who are not entitled to them.
I voted green last election, and they are my current front runner, but I really do not like their policy on nuclear dissarmament. I think that would stop me from voting for them, which makes me a bit sad because I like so much about their other policies. My biggest issue with Labour is the digital ID enforcement, and I’ll never vote Tory or Reform, so I fear I may not even vote next election.
They aren’t going to though because they don’t want to.
Nice to see the left rediscovering their civil libertarian impulse again.
Too much fear mongering regarding this. All our driving licenses are on a database somewhere, same with all our passport details, and national insurance details, and this is just adding 1 more.
Like it has been pointed out before in polls, more people supported digital IDs than opposed up until recently. The support of any potential policy will drop massively if Labour announces they’re gonna do it and the support will drop just because it’s Labour who is doing it. If Reform implemented this then the England flag yobs would all be saying its essential for national security and to stop illegal immigration and it would have a very big majority of support with those groups.
Labour just needs to push through a few big things which are seen as unpopular within the next year, let it all settle for 9 months, then replace Starmer with someone who seems like they’ll be good to have a pint with(since that seems to be what half the country bases their PM preference on), and then have that person announce and implement the more popular policies in the 18 months leading to the next election. The obvious popular policy I always say is now that the rail is being “nationalised” we should have a £3k travelcard cap which then makes it apply nationally. Millions of people will instantly be given the ability to travel anywhere in the country by train at no additional cost and very little cost to the government because most people weren’t taking national rail trains for leisure anyway. Thats a few million people made a lot more happy, do a couple more similar policies and then maybe they can retain 20%+ of the vote. It just takes Starmer being okay with knowingly being the fall guy.
Your data is not going to be hacked guys chill, you can pin my comment. It’s built internally and we surprisingly do very good with government apps and data. Your phone gives all your secrets away everyday yet no one seems arsed about that.
What you should be worried about is what they are going to do with your data in a few years, (oh you’ve used your ID for 4 beers today you’re now banned for the remaining week – 3 public score)..
If they can do that then it’ll be a major scalp for the Green party, which isn’t a sentence I could have imagined writing a few weeks ago.
Surely we already have all the required data, i have an account on hmrc’s website, i havw a unique taxpayer number, an NI number, and all visa applications are digital.
You can determine someones right to work using this existing data, that people log into.
I think the DVLA website has a system where you can generate a code to share your driving license record with someone (authorised peoples).
Why can I not just login to hmrc, and generate a code that they can lookup to check my name, right-to-work etc. Equally those on a visa could do the same on the visa website.
I think those that assume this is some treasure trove of hacker data fail to realise that its already all there, passports, HMRC etc, etc. its already all digital.
This will be an incredible win for an already rising Polanski if the government U-turns on it.