Well of course he did, he gets a big chunk of change from MAGA Republicans so they pay the piper…
SkynBonce on
If you follow the money, it’s so very easy to see the shit they’ll flood the country with.
JC_snooker on
He’ll fuck it up if he start with american abortion stuff. All he needs to do is say free speech, law and order and control illegal imagination and he will have a good chance to win.
FrustratedPCBuild on
Oh here we go, he’ll bring all of that shite over here with him, loyal to a Russian and American yet has the brass neck to claim a monopoly on patriotism.
danystormborne on
This is the sort of move that could stop Reform, Labour won’t have to put up a fight.
DaiCeiber on
Hope people are starting to see why he wants personal control of our human rights!
Acrobatic-Room-9478 on
The MAGAfication of UK politics is a race to the bottom
RecentTwo544 on
I really don’t get this.
Yeah it’s a big income source, but it’s really going to harm his chances.
There’s little/no desire for anti-abortion type legislation in the UK, very very few hard-right fundamental Christian types, certainly not enough to form any kind of meaningful lobby. We’re VERY different from the US in that respect.
All this will do is turn a lot of people off Reform if they start with the mental Christian type stuff. An awful lot of their voter base won’t like it at all. In fact I’d argue their more extreme die-hard fanbase will be the ones who hate it the most, generally being male and atheist.
I’m personally all for it, anything to harm their chances, but you get my point.
lordnacho666 on
Is that gonna work in the UK? People aren’t nearly as religious as in the US.
appletinicyclone on
One of the strange oddities in life I found interesting is that Islam and Muslims in general have a more progressive approach to abortion and women’s reproductive rights than American Christian evangelicals and Catholics.
They have a wide window of about 4 months for abortion. Have the standard distress of the mother life and health of the mother conditionality exceptions but actually allow for abortion within the first four months. There’s difference of opinions and ofcourse there’s encouragement to have children
But it’s just funny that it’s more progressive than you would expect compared to the so called right wingers.
Now people can complain about all other kinds of things but I just think that that’s a funny situation
Reform aren’t going to get the anti abortion support they want in the UK.
And while people should ideally do the whole morning after or protection to avoid a situation where a foetus has to have it’s life taken away, I think where the laws are at right now is fine and proper.
We really need to push back against this Americanisation that’s happening
MouldyAvocados on
And this is going to be his downfall. There’s no appetite for the anti-abortion MAGA bullshit in this country. This is the shit that will fuck up his lead.
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
Farage’s strength is his comms and perceived authenticity, but don’t see how he can sell policy based on Christian nationalism without coming across as disingenuous.
We will see how it pans out, but I think this will turn off a decent chunk of potential Reform voters.
antlered-god on
Two problems here. Making decisions for women about what they can or can’t do with their own bodies, and pulling the religion card.
Both options are utterly ridiculous in this day and age…..
Artichokeypokey on
(to the tune of the spider-man theme)
Culture war
Culture war
Prepare for a new culture war
The news will make people bitch
So people don’t eat the rich
Watch out
Heres the culture war
ShockingShorties on
Lol, no surprise here. Straight out of the Trump/ Republican rubicon of drivel.
What a piece of excrement this guy is.
Efficient_Sky5173 on
American Copycat. Christian Nationalism.
Well, we have a king. So, No Kings protests are out the question.
Species1139 on
Farage took a big wad of money to appoint an anti abortion right wing religious nut job as a senior adviser.
Fixed it.
NordicBeserker on
This man, James Orr, is the chair of the “Centre for a Better Britain” a heritage foundation wannabe thinktank which proudly projects its intention to inject 25 million dollars of US evangelist money into Reforms pockets.
A think tank which used to be named Resolute1850 (the boat which timbers were used for the presidents desk in the oval office) when it was first set up last year from a Reform office in Millbank Tower.
Which I guess the Yank messaging was so overt even they had to change it.
A Christian nationalist/ integralist who advises tradcath Vance and disavows abortion in cases of rape, who praises Orbans obstructionism of EU sanctions on Russia and criticises what he calls “Ukraine Brain”
Who in 2019 at Cambridge University, invited the author of the Bell curve to speak (worth noting Toby Youngs FreespeechUnion appears in the same circle with Orrs friend Nigel Biggar.)
Is now senior advisor to, the next prime minister.
Bolvaettur on
But the spectator told me he was left wing now, so what’s he doing appointing a right wing adviser?
Kobruh456 on
I’m excited for absolutely nothing to come of this and for nobody with an audience to ever challenge him on it.
SinisterPixel on
This just in: Party who constantly say and do terrible things do something predictably terrible
SojournerInThisVale on
Jeezo, what a headline. A respected Cambridge Don and the focus is ‘anti abortion’. Wouldn’t it be far more enriching that, rather than focus on American politics headline grabbing, it focussed on his Aristotelian world view ?
SojournerInThisVale on
This is a really interesting appointment, and will actually give the party some intellectual heft, something that’s been missing from Reform (which has very much been low culture until now) and has been missing from the Tory Party for near 20 years. It’ll be interesting to see how this develops
TheCharalampos on
Odious. I do hope the stench is reaching people considering voting for them. Even if you believe the stuff they say, it’s clear they’ll be coming after the rights of people. As usual, starting from women.
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Well of course he did, he gets a big chunk of change from MAGA Republicans so they pay the piper…
If you follow the money, it’s so very easy to see the shit they’ll flood the country with.
He’ll fuck it up if he start with american abortion stuff. All he needs to do is say free speech, law and order and control illegal imagination and he will have a good chance to win.
Oh here we go, he’ll bring all of that shite over here with him, loyal to a Russian and American yet has the brass neck to claim a monopoly on patriotism.
This is the sort of move that could stop Reform, Labour won’t have to put up a fight.
Hope people are starting to see why he wants personal control of our human rights!
The MAGAfication of UK politics is a race to the bottom
I really don’t get this.
Yeah it’s a big income source, but it’s really going to harm his chances.
There’s little/no desire for anti-abortion type legislation in the UK, very very few hard-right fundamental Christian types, certainly not enough to form any kind of meaningful lobby. We’re VERY different from the US in that respect.
All this will do is turn a lot of people off Reform if they start with the mental Christian type stuff. An awful lot of their voter base won’t like it at all. In fact I’d argue their more extreme die-hard fanbase will be the ones who hate it the most, generally being male and atheist.
I’m personally all for it, anything to harm their chances, but you get my point.
Is that gonna work in the UK? People aren’t nearly as religious as in the US.
One of the strange oddities in life I found interesting is that Islam and Muslims in general have a more progressive approach to abortion and women’s reproductive rights than American Christian evangelicals and Catholics.
They have a wide window of about 4 months for abortion. Have the standard distress of the mother life and health of the mother conditionality exceptions but actually allow for abortion within the first four months. There’s difference of opinions and ofcourse there’s encouragement to have children
But it’s just funny that it’s more progressive than you would expect compared to the so called right wingers.
Now people can complain about all other kinds of things but I just think that that’s a funny situation
Reform aren’t going to get the anti abortion support they want in the UK.
And while people should ideally do the whole morning after or protection to avoid a situation where a foetus has to have it’s life taken away, I think where the laws are at right now is fine and proper.
We really need to push back against this Americanisation that’s happening
And this is going to be his downfall. There’s no appetite for the anti-abortion MAGA bullshit in this country. This is the shit that will fuck up his lead.
Farage’s strength is his comms and perceived authenticity, but don’t see how he can sell policy based on Christian nationalism without coming across as disingenuous.
We will see how it pans out, but I think this will turn off a decent chunk of potential Reform voters.
Two problems here. Making decisions for women about what they can or can’t do with their own bodies, and pulling the religion card.
Both options are utterly ridiculous in this day and age…..
(to the tune of the spider-man theme)
Culture war
Culture war
Prepare for a new culture war
The news will make people bitch
So people don’t eat the rich
Watch out
Heres the culture war
Lol, no surprise here. Straight out of the Trump/ Republican rubicon of drivel.
What a piece of excrement this guy is.
American Copycat. Christian Nationalism.
Well, we have a king. So, No Kings protests are out the question.
Farage took a big wad of money to appoint an anti abortion right wing religious nut job as a senior adviser.
Fixed it.
This man, James Orr, is the chair of the “Centre for a Better Britain” a heritage foundation wannabe thinktank which proudly projects its intention to inject 25 million dollars of US evangelist money into Reforms pockets.
A think tank which used to be named Resolute1850 (the boat which timbers were used for the presidents desk in the oval office) when it was first set up last year from a Reform office in Millbank Tower.
Which I guess the Yank messaging was so overt even they had to change it.
A Christian nationalist/ integralist who advises tradcath Vance and disavows abortion in cases of rape, who praises Orbans obstructionism of EU sanctions on Russia and criticises what he calls “Ukraine Brain”
Who in 2019 at Cambridge University, invited the author of the Bell curve to speak (worth noting Toby Youngs FreespeechUnion appears in the same circle with Orrs friend Nigel Biggar.)
Is now senior advisor to, the next prime minister.
But the spectator told me he was left wing now, so what’s he doing appointing a right wing adviser?
I’m excited for absolutely nothing to come of this and for nobody with an audience to ever challenge him on it.
This just in: Party who constantly say and do terrible things do something predictably terrible
Jeezo, what a headline. A respected Cambridge Don and the focus is ‘anti abortion’. Wouldn’t it be far more enriching that, rather than focus on American politics headline grabbing, it focussed on his Aristotelian world view ?
This is a really interesting appointment, and will actually give the party some intellectual heft, something that’s been missing from Reform (which has very much been low culture until now) and has been missing from the Tory Party for near 20 years. It’ll be interesting to see how this develops
Odious. I do hope the stench is reaching people considering voting for them. Even if you believe the stuff they say, it’s clear they’ll be coming after the rights of people. As usual, starting from women.