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    Mohammed Umar Khan, 15, named as killer of schoolboy Harvey Willgoose
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    Mohammed Umar Khan, 15, named as killer of schoolboy Harvey Willgoose

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    2. Draenix on

      Motivation was just typical schoolboy beef, one of them just turned out to be significantly more evil and unhinged than the other. This isn’t a story that we haven’t seen 1000 times with kids of all different races. Just saying before it gets made a race thing.

      Edit: I do also realise I am preemptively making it a race thing here tho lol

    8. Orageux101 on

      Is that a typical sentence? I’m pleasantly surprised with the strictness of the sentence.

    9. Baby_Rhino on

      Some of the mitigation seems a bit odd to me.

      Why does he get a shorter sentence because “sometimes” had to look after his younger brother?

      And calculating that his maturity is *actually* that of a 14 year old, not a 15 year old, so again sentence shortened, is just bizarre to me.

      And that he was “keen to take his GCSEs”. How does that factor in in *any* way to how long he should be locked up?

    11. EddViBritannia on

      Glad he didn’t get a slap on the wrist. Life sentence, minimum 16 years. Hopefully he uses those 16 years of his life to wise up and reform.

    12. wappingite on

      Could this have been stopped?

      I remember as a teenager my friends and I all felt enraged by something at some point – an argument, being made to look stupid, embarrassed in front of the class, a fight, something over a girl and so on.

      The absolute incandescent rage that you have as a teenager with all the hormones going… I think my lot were all lucky we did have our heads (fairly well) screwed on and taking a knife to someone was never an option.

      BUT – we certainly had some pretty dark thoughts of revenge, fantasies of wanting to really make someone feel how we felt. I can certainly imagine it wouldn’t take an average UK teenager much to be pushed over the edge, only a few steps from a fist fight to seeing the red mist and wanting to mess someone up ‘for good’, especially after years of bullying and with social media remembering and reminding everyone of everything. Photos of every embarrassing event, every time you messed up, every moment, over and over again, shared with everyone. It sounds utterly destructive and would just magnify the feelings a teenage boy could have.

      It doesn’t excuse his behaviour of course.

      Maybe we do need to move to a USA approach of knife detectors inside schools? More stop and search. Total bans on social media for teenagers – it was impossible to have social media beef with someone as a kid for me because it didn’t exist. Yeah a few of the nerds might have had a hotmail or usa.net email address but that was it. You’d be using your mum and dad’s landline phone to have one on one conversations and you wouldn’t be calling up a random person in your class you sort of know in the first place.

      There was no online world where you’d be messaging acquaintances and people you only ‘sort of’ liked, such as happens in the world of snapchat and instagram.

    13. T_raltixx on

      2 of my cousin’s kids go to the same school. One passed Harvey shortly before it happened. He was really shook up.

    15. halos1518 on

      I went to this school and it was a lot safer only 10 years ago. We didn’t have to do lock downs or bag searches or anything of the sort. What changed?