Reform proposes to cut Pip payments to people with anxiety

Add giving PIP mobility cars to people with ADHD to the list too.

EDIT: For those asking for stats: ADHD is the 14th most commonly approved claim. [https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-health-conditions/claim-pip-for-adhd](https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-health-conditions/claim-pip-for-adhd)

Honestly fair enough to some degree. As much as it is probably going to get me downvoted, there’s definitely a subset of people struggling with varying degrees of anxiety that should be in systems aiming to help them get into work and overcome their challenges, rather than compounding their issues by simply telling them feeling this way is just how it is and you’ll never work.

There’s a real discussion going on right now in my sector (education) that is suggesting we are permanently damaging young people, alongside doctors, but allowing students to be exempt from too much related to anxiety because they have a doctor’s note. The problem is this simply compounds the issue over time and makes it worse.

Teachers feel restricted, because they have a doctor’s note, and doctor’s are simply more than happy to write a note as they feel the anxiety is genuine. No one is technically wrong here, as everyone is following procedure, but the procedures likely need a huge overhaul to consider what is in the best long-term for the students and not only focus on short term benefits.

I can see the same considerations making sense for adults.

Do I think Reform will take this money and instead invest it into actively helping people? Fuck no.

This country has a remarkably progressive policy towards people suffering from mental health conditions (which long term anxiety is), and we should be proud of the way we embrace paths forwards on this.

The race to the bottom proposed by reform is, by definition, regressive.

Edit; I see that the bandwagoning goes both ways, judging by the ups and downs on this post.

I wonder how many people interested in this post are only here because the original comment has the word “reform” in the title.

As someone who’s lived through anxiety and daily panic attacks I have to say I’m for this. Obviously people’s experiences will differ but the absolute worst thing for my condition was being at home alone with my crazy anxious brain. My employer was supportive and I worked full time whilst working on getting myself better (took about 2 years). If I’d signed on to benefits and stayed home chances are I would have given up and become a recluse. We don’t need handouts for people with poor mental health, what we need is supportive work environments and accessible treatment on the NHS.

It should depend on the level of anxiety. Most people feel anxious on a day to day basis but can cope but it’s debilitating to others.

Brought to you by the same people who think depression is feeling a bit sad, a bad back is just a little twinge that a lay down will sort out and PTSD is something you should man up about and get on with it. Surprised they didn’t blame people having anxiety on all the immigrants about these days.

The sooner we bin off this nonsense and get these bone idle idiots back into the workplace the better. No wonder Reform are surging in the polls.

‘Let’s make the world worse and then blame everyone else for how they feel about it’

I feel dirty agreeing with that horrendous party on something but this is sensible. Yes a small minority of people with anxiety have it to a crippling extent, like can’t leave the house bad. Most people with anxiety can treat it with lifestyle changes like exercise and less drinking/coping mechanisms and SSRIs if necessary. The country is skint and that money can go on people with life-altering mental health issues. Not people having a shitty time.

30p Lee pontificating and lecturing people about subjects he knows precious little to nothing about. Again!!

I’ve said it before and it usually gets downvoted, but why not means test it? I appreciate that life costs some people more, but if they’re working and earning good money then it’s a saving that could be made.

the last people I trust on mental health are politicians. at the back of that list are reform politicians.

Completely agree and it should be done with depression too (except in the most extreme cases). Paying someone extra money isn’t going to help them. They’re also impossible to diagnose and easy to fake. There are housing estates full of people with one, the other or both claiming PIP.

Anxiety shouldn’t excempt you from entering the workplace.

Every time something like this gets posted the comments are literally full of people “most people don’t understand how bad “anxiety” “depression” “adhd” etc etc I’m can really be… followed by more nonsense about how they can’t leave their homes or do anything of value so they have to sit gaming and chatting shit at the tax payers expense whilst everyone else gets on with it and works 40 hours a week for shit pay to feed and cloth themselves, whilst carrying a tax burden for everyone else.

You lot need to read the room, “WE DON’T CARE”

Everyone who works in this country is tired of propping up everyone else who doesn’t. None of us want to get up every day, a lot of us have been diagnosed with anxiety, depression, adhd. We get on regardless.

Is everyone able to do that? No some have it so bad they can’t ever work, I accept that. The problem is that it’s no where near as many as are currently claiming it’s so bad they can’t work. The public knows most of you are playing the system. The tax payer knows you are playing the system. The government knows you are playing the system. The gravy train is ending so take your exaggerated mental illness card and play it elsewhere.