Third of boys think women’s rights are unimportant, survey reveals

Certainly has nothing to with education and/or parenting.

Being a woman, these days, walking home from work at night must be a troubling prospect.

I’m sadly not surprised however we as a society need to tackle this and stamp it out. I’ve heard schoolboys on the bus before now chatting about Andrew Tate, like he’s “the man” and it’s disgusting that kids are being allowed to think these views are ok or acceptable.

I don’t believe that. Would like to see the primary source because I don’t think the survey would hold up to scrutiny. Surveying that age group is especially hard because they will put non serious answers, they will not understand terminology or implications of certain statements, they are volatile in terms of emotions and are more likely to answer very differently due to how their feeling that day and if schools and teachers made them do the survey that completely jeopardises the validity of the findings.

Copying another comment “Worth noting that the survey was apparently conducted by ‘Male Allies UK Ltd.’, a company which sells ‘gender equity and inclusion’ training to businesses. They have not published the full report or survey methodology publicly yet.”

you can argue and i will that is in fact a good thing. what really is important is human rights not any identity based right structure

it’d no concept of women’s or men’s rights when I was a kid of around 11-13/14

About 20-30% of boys aged 11–15 are from Black and South Asian backgrounds, and surveys have shown these groups demonstrate consistently higher rates of misogynistic beliefs. It’s higher in some major cities like Manchester.

>**Of the 1,214 people surveyed from ages 16 through 25, ethnic minorities were more likely to view him [Andrew Tate] positively versus white young people: 41 percent of Black respondents, 31 percent of Asian respondents, 15 percent of white respondents.**

Sources: [https://www.isdglobal.org/isd-in-the-news/survey-one-in-five-young-people-in-the-uk-view-andrew-tate-in-a-positive-light/?utm_source=chatgpt.com](https://www.isdglobal.org/isd-in-the-news/survey-one-in-five-young-people-in-the-uk-view-andrew-tate-in-a-positive-light/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

[https://savanta.com/knowledge-centre/view/1-in-3-have-a-positive-view-of-andrew-tate/](https://savanta.com/knowledge-centre/view/1-in-3-have-a-positive-view-of-andrew-tate/)

My guess, based on the data I’ve cited, is that a rise in misogyny among young boys is being driven primarily by those of immigrant backgrounds, particularly Black and Asian (which usually means Pakistani, Bangladeshi, etc., not, like, Korean) who make up a significantly larger proportion of the current cohort of young boys than they did in previous generations, and are more than twice as likely to hold and express misogynistic views. That makes sense given they and their families come from [profoundly misogynistic cultures](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_women_in_Pakistan), and the culture of your family obviously shapes your views and values from a very young age.

Put plainly: if young Black and Asian boys are more likely to hold misogynistic beliefs than white boys (they are), and their share of the overall young cohort increases (it has), you’d expect to see that tilt the overall statistics for young boys in the direction of misogyny, which is what we’re now seeing.

All our rights are important, let’s not turn this into a redplil vs fempil argument!

Boys are being left behind in everything from school outcomes, early life earnings, university education, mental health. There’s a big focus on girls and women, in large part because societally we were behind for their outcomes, but if the young boys are looking comparatively to their peer groups, then they’re absolutely seeing that women are getting more support now and some are probably feeling bitter about that. To them, yes, it would seem that women have it better at their point in life and don’t need that extra support.

To highlight one of these issues I’ve seen, it’s rare to find a mens only scholarship for university, even in traditionally women dominated fields like nursing or teaching, but women’s scholarships for my engineering course? My university couldn’t sign up to the programs faster if they wanted. Which is not to say I believe these programs should be torn down, but that when we recognize gender imbalances in society, atm we tend to only care about them when that imbalance affects women. That’s going to drive resentment, especially in young impressionable people.

>Some mentioned they felt that girls are celebrated, but boys were often seen as part of the problem and that feminism tended to lead to boys being blamed, with 54 per cent believing boys have it harder than girls today.

What a weird article though, it has the headline then talks about AI for 3 paragraphs…

But heres the thing that I saw brough up a few months back it is that kids these days are growing up seeing pretty much equality and not seeing lower wages for women etc (I’d give more examples but I am tired and struggling to think) so they aren’t seeing a need to push for more rights for women and as this survey shows they are even seeing it go the other way in their direct experiences. So with this it makes it easy picking for the manosphere to influence kids.

Also tbf I am not sure I really cared about womens or anyones rights when I was an early teen, think I cared more about the latest game on playstation. I dunno there is definetly an influencer bs problem with kids these days but also I don’t really want kids of any gender to have to worry about what rights they/others have. I would probably say around 14/15ish is when should start learning about it all which is the upper part of the age range for this study.

The most /r/UK response imaginable in the comments

If I were 15 today and you asked me whether women’s rights were important I’d wonder what you were on about.

The right to vote was equalised at 21 years in 1928, meaning that a 118-year old woman gained the right to vote on her 21st birthday.

Bank accounts were 1975 – you’d have to be ~70 years old to be restricted by that as an adult – so pretty much these kids’ grandparents, and even then only for a few years.

It’s basically ancient history. If you are in your mid 30s to early 40s, i.e. the likely parents of these kids, WW2 was closer in time for you, what about rationing?

In modern Britain, what rights do women have that are objectively different from the rights that men have? I’d say we’ve created a pretty equal society (it’s taken a while) so is the question being answered in this context?