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    Leaving the ECHR won’t stop the boats, 300 organisations warn in rallying cry to defend human rights
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    Leaving the ECHR won’t stop the boats, 300 organisations warn in rallying cry to defend human rights

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    1. ForwardReflection980 on

      They don’t want to stop the boats, it’s abundantly clear. The humiliation will continue.

    2. Anxious-Potato-7323 on

      I’ve been telling people this. There are other parts of international law that comes into play.
      The ECHR is one of several pieces of law when it comes to asylum.

      They want your rights gone, not those of migrants.

      Farage has just told businesses that he plans to deregulate everything.

      It all goes hand in hand. Reform don’t give a fuck about us.

    3. BaBeBaBeBooby on

      Wouldn’t leaving the ECHR allow the govt to significantly deter the boats and deal with those arriving differently?

    4. After-Dentist-2480 on

      The people who conned us into thinking that leaving the EU would solve all these issues are now trying to con us that leaving the ECHR would do the same.

    5. the_excellent_goat on

      Remember guys

      ~~It’s the EU that is causing your problems~~

      It’s your human rights causing your problems

    6. mao_was_right on

      It wouldn’t stop any boats, no. The objective is making it actually possible to remove failed asylum seekers and criminals after they arrive without it taking years and failing anyway due to ridiculous Article 8 reasons.

      There’s no need to even leave it. Government and Parliament need to clarify how the existing rules should be interpreted to curb abuse of it. It will happen eventually, make no mistake, either here or on the continent, as it is the only way this madness ends.

    7. gofish125 on

      Yes technically you have to change the pull factors, but you can’t do that because of the ECHR. Do nothing at your own peril

    8. Clickification on

      First they took the EU away from us, they’re coming for the ECHR next. Its all part of a plan to isolate and dismantle our country, take away our rights/freedoms and steal away our wealth and our futures.

      Why would they want to solve the ‘immigration problem’ that gets them so much influence and power?

      Hint: they don’t.

      Source: the Tories ‘anti immigration’ stance leading to the highest immigration levels, ever.

    9. rssurtees on

      We have some great human rights lawyers in the UK. We should ask them about the need for the ECHR as we need expert guidance

    13. Diligent_Craft_1165 on

      ECHR is a red herring. We eventually accept a higher percentage of asylum claims than lots of other European countries. Plenty of countries signed up to the same international treaties as us deport higher numbers.

      We need to make it much less attractive for them to come here.

    14. Sonchay on

      There hasn’t even been a single appeal case taken up by the ECHR in the last 5 years despite tens of thousands of asylum decisions. This tells us that our institutions are applying an extremely lenient acceptance policy and we should be looking inwards at solving that before considering completely withdrawing from the system.

    15. Whisky_Chaser on

      No the royal navy with 100% turnback policy will stop them . Then maybe France will pull there finger out and stop them at their borders.

    17. GDPR_Guru8691 on

      Leaving the EU increased immigration into Britain. When Britain was in the EU, Frontex and the EU Border Agency stopped a lot of this. Also leaving the EU so haphazardly meany Britain lost access to the Frontex databases. If Britain was still in the EU there would have been less immigration into Britain. So maybe rejoining the EU might be the smart thing to do.

    18. creepinghippo on

      There is no appetite to stop any boats or immigration. There is however a strong appetite to leave the ECHR.

      Other countries have been able to stop immigration without leaving so makes you wonder why they want to leave the ECHR so bad. My guess is because they want to do something that is against the ECHR in the future.

      ECHR is the target, immigration is the weapon they are using to hit the target.

    19. Fit_Land3709 on

      It will because the legislation of the ECHR is treaty based and treaties form one of the 4 corners of the British constitution

      Judges believe that ECHR rules are above the law of the British land and it should not take the Supreme Court to continually override foreign policy which is being favoured and is clashing with our common law system which is also part of the constitution

      We have the human rights act which reform will overhaul into a bill of rights. It’s worth noting that the ECHR was created by Winston Churchill to enshrine human rights within the continent post world war 2 but it must be stressed. Winston Churchill was a British leader, the laws passed down in the ECHR extended human rights laws of the U.K. across the CONTINENT

      It must be understood as the creator of the ECHR these laws are already within our legislation and they are enshrined by the common law aspect of the British constitution

      What leaving the ECHR does is simply remove the jurisdiction of the rest of Europe and these 300 organisations from using the foreign courts of law like that of Strasbourg in the EU against the U.K. to keep violent illegals within the U.K.

      Our judges whilst they are conflicted by internal and international issues conflicting within the same constitutional standard, they seem to be favouring the ECHR over internal legislation and national security

      If the ECHR was removed from the British constitution the judges could only act within what remains in the constitution, the human rights act for example. They cannot then push national security to one side to favour the cries of these ultimately foreign institutions who don’t want these rapists to return to their own countries

      ECHR may not have been made by the European Union but it is run by those unionists and it favours the blocs interests. Not justice and law. It is corrupted

      That’s the most informative way I can explain it. We introduced these rules to Europe, as we created it it basically doubles human rights laws for us. But as it is being used against us by international groups who don’t want these thugs back. It’s not a benefit to us.. it’s a noose.. we already had those laws, Europe didn’t

    20. rol2091 on

      To prevent the huge numbers arriving the government needs to build a large camp-holding centre on a remote island and put the illegal arrivals there.

      Once people know they won’t get into the community quickly [or maybe never] the pull-factor will be greatly reduced.

      The cost will be high and laws will need to be changed, but to get the numbers down as quickly as possible it is probably the best, most doable option.

    22. Species1139 on

      Remember when hundreds of companies, experts and economists said Brexit was a terrible idea that would cost billions.

      Then we voted for it.

      Are we lemmings marching relentlessly towards a cliff. I’ve no other explanation of why we’d vote against our own interests at the say so of one man of seriously dubious reputation.

    23. Greymon-Katratzi on

      The step after that will though. With no ECHR to get in the way the Government can pass all sorts of laws that curtail human rights.