A ban and a huge fine for the clean up would be better.
reckless-rogboy on
So as long as the fly tippers care about unlicensed driving and the police can be bothered to enforce driving bans, this should all go smoothly.
On second thoughts, I think there might be a weakness in the plan.
judochop1 on
The problem is having sufficient officers to detect and apprehend the tippers. You can have all the punishments you like, it means nothing when they’re not getting caught.
On top of that, councils have to impose costs on using the landfill and recycling, which incentivises fly tipping.
clbbcrg on
Make it easier to get rid of stuff ?
Appointments at the tip, no vans allowed, no trade waste, sorting everything into different bags is too many barriers for a lot of people so they just dump it..
Fun-Relative3058 on
Yes I’m sure our police force has been given the funds to deal with chasing fly tippers since the tories took government
overgirthed-thirdeye on
Fly tipping occurs largely in rural areas, without CCTV or members of the public. How exactly are the culprits going to be given points when we don’t know who they are?
mint-bint on
It could be solved instantly if they made it easy to dispose of waste.
I was helping someone move house recently and the cunts at the tip refused (with great relish) 90% of what we were trying to dispose of responsibly.
This was just regular household crap too. Nothing special.
6079-SmithW on
Why points? The offence is fly tipping. Give them a fine and community service cleaning duties, assuming they can be caught that is.
jx45923950 on
Fuck that. Full driving ban. Tear up their licence. Crush the van and bill therm the cost of that plus the cleanup.
Reg_Vardy on
That’s actually not a bad idea. A lot simpler for the police to give out points for first-time offenders than to wait for multiple offences to occur, and meet the burden of proof to get them successfully convicted through the courts.
Still, as things stand the tories have zero chance of being reelected, and their other plans like National service are hideous, so they can do one.
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
Good job I do all my fly tipping with a cargo bike!
takesthebiscuit on
Tories announce something they should have been doing for 14 years!
diometric on
I’m sure the ECHR will find this to be racist towards Travellers as flytipping is an important part of their culture.
External-Praline-451 on
Shame they didn’t come up with a plan in the last 14 years. If they get in again, expect them to do nothing and promise new ideas before the next election.
grantus_maximus on
The Conservatives could promise everyone a £20k bonus and a free mountain bike if they wanted because they won’t be forming the next government so none of it will ever become reality. All this is about is generating the headlines they think will attract the attention of those voters who they think they still have a chance of retaining with the hope that it’s not as bad a loss as they are fearing. There will be no substance to whatever policies they pull out of their arse.
DSQ on
Are people who work in waste disposal regulated? I’ve heard that sometimes what has been fly tipped has been dumped by people who have been paid to get rid of rubbish.
erisiansunrise on
Scraping the bottom of the barrel continues. Like all policies they come out with now, the first question is always “why didn’t you do this in the last 14 years?”
SDLRob on
Gotta admit…. might be the first thing the Tories have suggested in this election that i would agree with.
dougadump on
…….and where are the police to catch them?.
Over to you tories…..
PloppyTheSpaceship on
But what? How? It is not a driving offence. I’m all for finding them, but saying to them “oh you’ve got a point on your licence but if you attend a speed awareness course then that’s fine” is a tad… weird.
Is this from the same school of thought that wants to fine parents if their 18 year old children don’t do their year of national service, despite the fact the child is 18 so legally an adult?
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A ban and a huge fine for the clean up would be better.
So as long as the fly tippers care about unlicensed driving and the police can be bothered to enforce driving bans, this should all go smoothly.
On second thoughts, I think there might be a weakness in the plan.
The problem is having sufficient officers to detect and apprehend the tippers. You can have all the punishments you like, it means nothing when they’re not getting caught.
On top of that, councils have to impose costs on using the landfill and recycling, which incentivises fly tipping.
Make it easier to get rid of stuff ?
Appointments at the tip, no vans allowed, no trade waste, sorting everything into different bags is too many barriers for a lot of people so they just dump it..
Yes I’m sure our police force has been given the funds to deal with chasing fly tippers since the tories took government
Fly tipping occurs largely in rural areas, without CCTV or members of the public. How exactly are the culprits going to be given points when we don’t know who they are?
It could be solved instantly if they made it easy to dispose of waste.
I was helping someone move house recently and the cunts at the tip refused (with great relish) 90% of what we were trying to dispose of responsibly.
This was just regular household crap too. Nothing special.
Why points? The offence is fly tipping. Give them a fine and community service cleaning duties, assuming they can be caught that is.
Fuck that. Full driving ban. Tear up their licence. Crush the van and bill therm the cost of that plus the cleanup.
That’s actually not a bad idea. A lot simpler for the police to give out points for first-time offenders than to wait for multiple offences to occur, and meet the burden of proof to get them successfully convicted through the courts.
Still, as things stand the tories have zero chance of being reelected, and their other plans like National service are hideous, so they can do one.
Good job I do all my fly tipping with a cargo bike!
Tories announce something they should have been doing for 14 years!
I’m sure the ECHR will find this to be racist towards Travellers as flytipping is an important part of their culture.
Shame they didn’t come up with a plan in the last 14 years. If they get in again, expect them to do nothing and promise new ideas before the next election.
The Conservatives could promise everyone a £20k bonus and a free mountain bike if they wanted because they won’t be forming the next government so none of it will ever become reality. All this is about is generating the headlines they think will attract the attention of those voters who they think they still have a chance of retaining with the hope that it’s not as bad a loss as they are fearing. There will be no substance to whatever policies they pull out of their arse.
Are people who work in waste disposal regulated? I’ve heard that sometimes what has been fly tipped has been dumped by people who have been paid to get rid of rubbish.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel continues. Like all policies they come out with now, the first question is always “why didn’t you do this in the last 14 years?”
Gotta admit…. might be the first thing the Tories have suggested in this election that i would agree with.
…….and where are the police to catch them?.
Over to you tories…..
But what? How? It is not a driving offence. I’m all for finding them, but saying to them “oh you’ve got a point on your licence but if you attend a speed awareness course then that’s fine” is a tad… weird.
Is this from the same school of thought that wants to fine parents if their 18 year old children don’t do their year of national service, despite the fact the child is 18 so legally an adult?