Never understood why people always vote for someone purely because that’s what people in my family/area have always done. Think for yourself!
Edit because people think I’m talking about the headline only:
He states in the article that “I will be supportive of anybody who leads the Labour Party because where I come from we vote Labour and that will always be the case,”
I’m not saying it’s wrong to vote for Labour or any other party, but to vote in a way purely because that’s what you’ve always done/been told to do is showing a lack of independent/critical thought.
CobaltBlue389 on
Scotland had the independence referendum in 2014 which was a lot more divisive- it didn’t tear Scotland apart…
Division is caused by bad actors, social media and populism.
Ill_Shirt1182 on
So do l, although the Brexshiters were lied to (now proved) they should have had more sense.
TurbulentBullfrog829 on
Didn’t he spit on a 14 year old girl because he lost a football match?
Gweena on
Brexit is clearly populist garbage, but plenty of other countries have powerful socio-economic divides without having inflicted any thing like ‘Brexit’.
Those divisions started decades ago, and since the establish political class didnt offer any kind of solution, it’s no surprise that charlatans flocked to Brexit as an alternative.
Makes no sense to keep up the charade that Brexit is worth perpetuating, but getting rid of Brexit isnt going to be a silver bullet that curves ‘division’ either.
Diligent-Rule4109 on
People were divisive before Brexit, hence why Brexit became a thing.
M0dzSuckBallz100 on
Nothing to do with the amount of people being let in and lack of integration?
shiksappeal on
He’s not wrong but it’s not the only reason. We’re paying the legacy of the austerity cuts after the 2008 crash and brexit has compounded them.
Many of those cuts have never been reversed and so we now have a generation of people who’ve never known prosperity and their parents who feel let down that they couldn’t rise out of the cycle of low pay, high bills, ever declining public services (library closed, swimming pool closed, health service creaking, childcare and education cuts etc).
And they’re all angry and being conned about whose fault it is.
munkycheezmunky on
I’ll always maintain that Brexit wasn’t something we should’ve been voting on. Too big and nuanced of a decision
stowgood on
Well the liars that hyped it up,and forced it through with no plan sure. It became so tribal.
RainbowRedYellow on
Yeah he’s right, prior to Brexit I was deeply angry and cynnical at the UK for strong personal reasons but a faint unstated hope that we could do better.
Post Brexit I have a strong generalised hatred for everything British and a putrid hatred of the country and it’s entire institutions and particularly the elderly. I remember distinctly begin called a “Entitled liberal elite” for arguing for economic stability and against the racist harassment of one of my friends. By an elderly landlord neighbour who owned two homes, whereas I was on 24k a year.
post 2023 I have such anger and hatred for this place I’m aware I literally need therapy, it’s hard for me to veil it, Conservatives were ultimately successful in convincing me that “there is no such thing as society” which has altered my political outlook.
Point is it drove a schism but I’m unsure if it would be enough to rejoin at this point to mend the schism the wound that was ripped open has only been made deeper.
dja1000 on
Britain is divided because we are lied to be repeated governments, votes are bought and imported at the expense of our future.
Brexit is a symptom of this
Kiaugh on
What about all of the other countries going through the same problems and feeling divisive? Brexit is just a deflection.
Hocus-Pocus-No-Focus on
Brexit … the cause of, and solution to all life’s problems
Fuzzy-Loss-4204 on
Another Multi millionaire Footballer talking bollocks, Stick to Football Jamie, you do actually know about that
itsheadfelloff on
It’s not the only reason but certainly gave the division a boost.
bobblebob100 on
I blame social media personally. Fake headlines designed to stir up hatred and division, algorithms that push the same narrative
Sinkrim on
Intense anti-immigration sentiment exists across the continent. Blaming it on Brexit is typical little Englander solipsism for whom anything outside of our (or America’s) borders is a complete mystery.
MiddleAgedStaffs on
Can anyone really take this disgusting creature seriously? That outrageous foul spitting incident should have been enough to consign him to the shadows.
fuxvill on
Sure it’s not the stabbings, killing, rapes, crime, violence, 2 tier justice, the insane handouts and support given to those that arrrive en masse and illegaly.
Whilst the rest of us are called the problem, and swindled for ever more tax to pay for the stupid experiment.
humansruineverything on
Wasn’t it the divisive attitude that tipped Britain into Brexit?
InterestedObserver48 on
He knows very little about football, he k Les even less about politics
He is an expert however at spitting at kids
duckilol_ on
This is a non argument because clearly the country was already divided before brexit? Otherwise the vote wouldnt have been so tight.
Also, a similar thing is happening in so many countries. All of europe is becoming more divided, so is America, and even countries like Japan.
If EU countries are like this, why is brexit to blame?
harrispie on
Same man that wore a shirt In support of Suarez during his ban for racism… This “division” has been going on before brexit mate.
mpanase on
The thing that literally split families, made them stop talking to each other?
Divisive?
Controversial take.
On the positive end, though, great win for wealthy people and Russia.
Jamie54 on
Did Brexit make him spit on a 14 year old girl too
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Never understood why people always vote for someone purely because that’s what people in my family/area have always done. Think for yourself!
Edit because people think I’m talking about the headline only:
He states in the article that “I will be supportive of anybody who leads the Labour Party because where I come from we vote Labour and that will always be the case,”
I’m not saying it’s wrong to vote for Labour or any other party, but to vote in a way purely because that’s what you’ve always done/been told to do is showing a lack of independent/critical thought.
Scotland had the independence referendum in 2014 which was a lot more divisive- it didn’t tear Scotland apart…
Division is caused by bad actors, social media and populism.
So do l, although the Brexshiters were lied to (now proved) they should have had more sense.
Didn’t he spit on a 14 year old girl because he lost a football match?
Brexit is clearly populist garbage, but plenty of other countries have powerful socio-economic divides without having inflicted any thing like ‘Brexit’.
Those divisions started decades ago, and since the establish political class didnt offer any kind of solution, it’s no surprise that charlatans flocked to Brexit as an alternative.
Makes no sense to keep up the charade that Brexit is worth perpetuating, but getting rid of Brexit isnt going to be a silver bullet that curves ‘division’ either.
People were divisive before Brexit, hence why Brexit became a thing.
Nothing to do with the amount of people being let in and lack of integration?
He’s not wrong but it’s not the only reason. We’re paying the legacy of the austerity cuts after the 2008 crash and brexit has compounded them.
Many of those cuts have never been reversed and so we now have a generation of people who’ve never known prosperity and their parents who feel let down that they couldn’t rise out of the cycle of low pay, high bills, ever declining public services (library closed, swimming pool closed, health service creaking, childcare and education cuts etc).
And they’re all angry and being conned about whose fault it is.
I’ll always maintain that Brexit wasn’t something we should’ve been voting on. Too big and nuanced of a decision
Well the liars that hyped it up,and forced it through with no plan sure. It became so tribal.
Yeah he’s right, prior to Brexit I was deeply angry and cynnical at the UK for strong personal reasons but a faint unstated hope that we could do better.
Post Brexit I have a strong generalised hatred for everything British and a putrid hatred of the country and it’s entire institutions and particularly the elderly. I remember distinctly begin called a “Entitled liberal elite” for arguing for economic stability and against the racist harassment of one of my friends. By an elderly landlord neighbour who owned two homes, whereas I was on 24k a year.
post 2023 I have such anger and hatred for this place I’m aware I literally need therapy, it’s hard for me to veil it, Conservatives were ultimately successful in convincing me that “there is no such thing as society” which has altered my political outlook.
Point is it drove a schism but I’m unsure if it would be enough to rejoin at this point to mend the schism the wound that was ripped open has only been made deeper.
Britain is divided because we are lied to be repeated governments, votes are bought and imported at the expense of our future.
Brexit is a symptom of this
What about all of the other countries going through the same problems and feeling divisive? Brexit is just a deflection.
Brexit … the cause of, and solution to all life’s problems
Another Multi millionaire Footballer talking bollocks, Stick to Football Jamie, you do actually know about that
It’s not the only reason but certainly gave the division a boost.
I blame social media personally. Fake headlines designed to stir up hatred and division, algorithms that push the same narrative
Intense anti-immigration sentiment exists across the continent. Blaming it on Brexit is typical little Englander solipsism for whom anything outside of our (or America’s) borders is a complete mystery.
Can anyone really take this disgusting creature seriously? That outrageous foul spitting incident should have been enough to consign him to the shadows.
Sure it’s not the stabbings, killing, rapes, crime, violence, 2 tier justice, the insane handouts and support given to those that arrrive en masse and illegaly.
Whilst the rest of us are called the problem, and swindled for ever more tax to pay for the stupid experiment.
Wasn’t it the divisive attitude that tipped Britain into Brexit?
He knows very little about football, he k Les even less about politics
He is an expert however at spitting at kids
This is a non argument because clearly the country was already divided before brexit? Otherwise the vote wouldnt have been so tight.
Also, a similar thing is happening in so many countries. All of europe is becoming more divided, so is America, and even countries like Japan.
If EU countries are like this, why is brexit to blame?
Same man that wore a shirt In support of Suarez during his ban for racism… This “division” has been going on before brexit mate.
The thing that literally split families, made them stop talking to each other?
Divisive?
Controversial take.
On the positive end, though, great win for wealthy people and Russia.
Did Brexit make him spit on a 14 year old girl too