Seems like lots of these degrees don’t actually have enough content to justify a degree, and are only degrees so the awarding institution can charge a fortune.
Icy_Zucchini_1138 on
Every time someone tries to justify “mickey mouse” degrees they say the UK has a large media/arts//culture sector.
But I’m you don’t need a mickey mouse degree to work in those areas
Id1ing on
It’s not the degrees that are the problem, it’s the volume of graduates we output via them vs the available related roles in society – be that the creative industry, teaching or research.
Spamgrenade on
Tories forget that a large portion of the UK economy is funded by the creative arts. Also a lot of these so called mickey mouse degrees are picked on because they have a single module like pan African lesbian women’s rights in the Congo 1923 when the degree as a whole is totally sensible.
One_Menu1900 on
Dont those with money take them Maybe dont want anyone else too??
shoogliestpeg on
Creative industries generate billions in that shareholder value they’re always coveting and yet in a country that no longer has any industrial core and all of our resources are owned by other countries, we go out of our way to cripple the industries whose main resource is **infinite human creativity.**
DigitalRoman486 on
Can we start a campaign to make Rishi paranoid about what is behind him in pictures?
Ok_Storage_9417 on
Further education is a market just like any other, and it needs to be regulated to protect consumers (students) that are being scammed. The people that really understand this would be parents whose kids suddenly say they want a BA in eSports studies.
Glad_Possibility7937 on
Clearly their degrees don’t give them enough education to understand that STEM graduates are just as capable of asking politically awkward questions. Like isn’t PPE one of those Mickey mouse degrees?
bluecheese2040 on
It’s the employment rates in a related area that counts imo when judging a course….or even in a graduate level job.
Creative courses need to provide access else they are useless.
For example UWE is tight with the BBC Nature Unit and other related production companies in Bristol and as such it offers a degree of access. So it’s creative yet worthwhile.
Anyways, a course churning out hundreds of grads that end up working in local supermarkets for years on end is problematic
boingwater on
Since when was a degree required to work in the creative arts?
klausness on
This “Mickey Mouse degree” stuff is just more of the Tories’ effort to devalue education, because an educated populace might question their policies. Of course, their kids will continue to get the Oxbridge Classics degrees that will give them connections to the powerful. But for everyone else, universities degrees should just be vocational training, with nothing that might encourage them to think about broader issues.
Dry_Construction4939 on
Look, degrees for everything are stupid, I’ll agree with Sunak on that one, but as someone who left school with no higher education and crappy GCSEs let me tell you it’s bloody hard to find a job without one. He’s not proposing a solution to the problem either beyond “here take this ‘apprenticeship’ which is actually an entry level job that someone doesn’t want to pay minimum wage for.” Granted there are some things in-between those options but not everyone is cut out to learn a trade ect.
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Seems like lots of these degrees don’t actually have enough content to justify a degree, and are only degrees so the awarding institution can charge a fortune.
Every time someone tries to justify “mickey mouse” degrees they say the UK has a large media/arts//culture sector.
But I’m you don’t need a mickey mouse degree to work in those areas
It’s not the degrees that are the problem, it’s the volume of graduates we output via them vs the available related roles in society – be that the creative industry, teaching or research.
Tories forget that a large portion of the UK economy is funded by the creative arts. Also a lot of these so called mickey mouse degrees are picked on because they have a single module like pan African lesbian women’s rights in the Congo 1923 when the degree as a whole is totally sensible.
Dont those with money take them Maybe dont want anyone else too??
Creative industries generate billions in that shareholder value they’re always coveting and yet in a country that no longer has any industrial core and all of our resources are owned by other countries, we go out of our way to cripple the industries whose main resource is **infinite human creativity.**
Can we start a campaign to make Rishi paranoid about what is behind him in pictures?
Further education is a market just like any other, and it needs to be regulated to protect consumers (students) that are being scammed. The people that really understand this would be parents whose kids suddenly say they want a BA in eSports studies.
Clearly their degrees don’t give them enough education to understand that STEM graduates are just as capable of asking politically awkward questions. Like isn’t PPE one of those Mickey mouse degrees?
It’s the employment rates in a related area that counts imo when judging a course….or even in a graduate level job.
Creative courses need to provide access else they are useless.
For example UWE is tight with the BBC Nature Unit and other related production companies in Bristol and as such it offers a degree of access. So it’s creative yet worthwhile.
Anyways, a course churning out hundreds of grads that end up working in local supermarkets for years on end is problematic
Since when was a degree required to work in the creative arts?
This “Mickey Mouse degree” stuff is just more of the Tories’ effort to devalue education, because an educated populace might question their policies. Of course, their kids will continue to get the Oxbridge Classics degrees that will give them connections to the powerful. But for everyone else, universities degrees should just be vocational training, with nothing that might encourage them to think about broader issues.
Look, degrees for everything are stupid, I’ll agree with Sunak on that one, but as someone who left school with no higher education and crappy GCSEs let me tell you it’s bloody hard to find a job without one. He’s not proposing a solution to the problem either beyond “here take this ‘apprenticeship’ which is actually an entry level job that someone doesn’t want to pay minimum wage for.” Granted there are some things in-between those options but not everyone is cut out to learn a trade ect.