Good for her for being brave enough to try and help him, and doubly brave for speaking out about this now.
They say that the best thing to do, if you have the presence of mind when someone needs help, is to call bystanders out and give them jobs as you’re preparing to give first aid. “You, call 999. You, take over from me when I can’t keep going,” that sort of thing. Seems like these days it might also be worth directing someone to head off people trying to record, too.
I_love_running_89 on
It’s sickening.
We live close to a large motorway, every time there’s a major crash, texts get circulated around the housing estate WhatsApp group to warn about an incident (fair enough), but then multiple times *photos / videos are also circulated*.
It’s disgusting and completely emotionally unaware / detached.
How would you feel if that’s you, or your loved one? Or imagine if you found out via that kind of text, not beyond the realms of possibility when an accident is local and ongoing.
One of the many reasons I’m not on said WhatsApp Group (although the wife is).
Jealous_Lobster_36 on
You’d have to be an absolutely deplorable scumbag to film such a situation. Just total scum of the earth, a drain on society and the species as a whole. I think it should be quite severely penalised, including losing the right to own a camera of any kind, like how hackers and paedos lose their right to own a computer of any kind.
tenerity on
I witnessed the immediate aftermath of a serious stabbing in a public place a few months back – ‘immediate’ as in I made the initial 999 call. I left once the police/paramedics arrived, as it didn’t feel right to just stand there watching. However, within a matter of hours, there were videos all over social media of the poor person being treated by paramedics. You could see a huge crowd of people filming and even live streaming it. I was genuinely appalled.
Haytham_Ken on
I was with a friend earlier this year for dinner. We were walking across the river and saw someone being put on a stretcher at the scene of a crash. I had to tell a few people off for filming. People are ridiculous these days.
rwinh on
This is disheartening to see as it’ll only make some people feel put off doing the right thing because a bunch of lazy bystanders need to get that small and temporary dopamine high of taking pictures or recording videos for their socials or kicks.
Helping others from simply helping someone up who has fallen down to someone seriously injured, potentially at death’s door, is stressful and scary enough as it is, without adding the extra pressure of some twit(s) with their phones out being unhelpful.
It really should be the norm that if someone unhelpfully and stupidly tries to do this then the only justifiable action is a swift slap of the device to the ground, because then maybe people would learn a valuable and expensive lesson. Save recording something if it needs to be used as evidence like in a crime, not someone in a vulnerable state.
cynical-mage on
At work (retail) we had a customer collapse and have a seizure. We had to, along with important stuff like aid and calling emergency services, actively block the area off entirely and prevent customers filming it!
Lau_kaa on
I‘ve seen this happen on the A1. Crashed car on the southbound side, northbound at a standstill because idiots were out of their cars filming the trapped driver being treated by paramedics. Not a brain cell between these people – can you imagine finding out your loved one had been killed or seriously injured because some turnip filmed the horror of their last moments and put it on Facebook?
Crafty-Reality-9425 on
But you don’t understand. This is great content for their online media accounts. Lots and lots of people like looking at other people’s suffering. It get’s them lots and lots of views, which in turn proves that they are such a popular person, validates them as an online celebrity (think ‘Strictly’, ‘Celebrity Big Brother’ could only be another 50,000 subscriptions/views away) and may also increase the money they can make from advertising revenue. This type of ‘content’ is like gold dust. Popularity and being rich is what we all aspire to be, isn’t it?
Glad_Librarian_3553 on
Jesus that really is out of order. I fully agree, it should be illegal.
It was bad enough for my poor mum when she saw my twisted motorbike being loaded onto a truck on the side of the road as she was heading home, I can’t possibly imagine what it would have been like for her if someone had sent a video of me being slammed into, or the paramedics tending me on the side of the road.
You have to be wrong in the head to film something like this in the first place, never mind send it to the victims family, wtf.
ShowerEmbarrassed512 on
I sometimes wish I could be this German police officer when getting filmed at public cardiac arrests:
My dad had a pretty bad accident where he got trapped under his motorbike and it set him and his clothing on fire (wearing good protective gear saved him from a lot worse but he was still badly banged up). When I picked him up from the hospital it really traumatized him that there were people there on the sidelines but no one helped, they just filmed him as he struggled to get out from under a fiery bike and the woman who hit him stood there completely delirious with panic. The detached inhumanity of it really got to him. This was like 2016 so I can only imagine it’s got much worse now.
SojournerInThisVale on
Why on earth would someone in that context pull out their phone and film. Where is the humanity? The sense of protecting someone else’s dignity?
bownyboy on
I’d like to think if this happened near me that I’d respond and help the person in need!
I’ve had to call 999 four times in the last five years. Its not something you expect to have to do or know how to respond. Each and every time I’ve had amazing call handlers who have been calm and helped massively in the stressful situation. To all of them I salute you.
For those filming and not doing anything? All I can think is that they have never had to call 999 for someone they care about, because if they had, filming would be the last fucking thing on their mind.
Evridamntime on
People steal from patients/ambulances in the street. People filming for clout does not surprise me.
SilverFoxU on
We do BLS at work, You have a 5% survival rate if you have a heart attack on the street and drop, That 95% will either be unable or unwilling to perform CPR.
crumplechicken on
People are morons. I agree with her it should be illegal. Feels like we are living in an episode of Black Mirror.
SmurfRiding on
>This proposed law is not about censorship, it is about decency, dignity and the right to grieve in peace.
This goes for **any** footage of war. This “it hurts my feelings therefore should be banned” attitude in this country is getting extremely old.
Rhinofishdog on
It’s very distasteful but making it illegal is just absolute bullshit.
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Good for her for being brave enough to try and help him, and doubly brave for speaking out about this now.
They say that the best thing to do, if you have the presence of mind when someone needs help, is to call bystanders out and give them jobs as you’re preparing to give first aid. “You, call 999. You, take over from me when I can’t keep going,” that sort of thing. Seems like these days it might also be worth directing someone to head off people trying to record, too.
It’s sickening.
We live close to a large motorway, every time there’s a major crash, texts get circulated around the housing estate WhatsApp group to warn about an incident (fair enough), but then multiple times *photos / videos are also circulated*.
It’s disgusting and completely emotionally unaware / detached.
How would you feel if that’s you, or your loved one? Or imagine if you found out via that kind of text, not beyond the realms of possibility when an accident is local and ongoing.
One of the many reasons I’m not on said WhatsApp Group (although the wife is).
You’d have to be an absolutely deplorable scumbag to film such a situation. Just total scum of the earth, a drain on society and the species as a whole. I think it should be quite severely penalised, including losing the right to own a camera of any kind, like how hackers and paedos lose their right to own a computer of any kind.
I witnessed the immediate aftermath of a serious stabbing in a public place a few months back – ‘immediate’ as in I made the initial 999 call. I left once the police/paramedics arrived, as it didn’t feel right to just stand there watching. However, within a matter of hours, there were videos all over social media of the poor person being treated by paramedics. You could see a huge crowd of people filming and even live streaming it. I was genuinely appalled.
I was with a friend earlier this year for dinner. We were walking across the river and saw someone being put on a stretcher at the scene of a crash. I had to tell a few people off for filming. People are ridiculous these days.
This is disheartening to see as it’ll only make some people feel put off doing the right thing because a bunch of lazy bystanders need to get that small and temporary dopamine high of taking pictures or recording videos for their socials or kicks.
Helping others from simply helping someone up who has fallen down to someone seriously injured, potentially at death’s door, is stressful and scary enough as it is, without adding the extra pressure of some twit(s) with their phones out being unhelpful.
It really should be the norm that if someone unhelpfully and stupidly tries to do this then the only justifiable action is a swift slap of the device to the ground, because then maybe people would learn a valuable and expensive lesson. Save recording something if it needs to be used as evidence like in a crime, not someone in a vulnerable state.
At work (retail) we had a customer collapse and have a seizure. We had to, along with important stuff like aid and calling emergency services, actively block the area off entirely and prevent customers filming it!
I‘ve seen this happen on the A1. Crashed car on the southbound side, northbound at a standstill because idiots were out of their cars filming the trapped driver being treated by paramedics. Not a brain cell between these people – can you imagine finding out your loved one had been killed or seriously injured because some turnip filmed the horror of their last moments and put it on Facebook?
But you don’t understand. This is great content for their online media accounts. Lots and lots of people like looking at other people’s suffering. It get’s them lots and lots of views, which in turn proves that they are such a popular person, validates them as an online celebrity (think ‘Strictly’, ‘Celebrity Big Brother’ could only be another 50,000 subscriptions/views away) and may also increase the money they can make from advertising revenue. This type of ‘content’ is like gold dust. Popularity and being rich is what we all aspire to be, isn’t it?
Jesus that really is out of order. I fully agree, it should be illegal.
It was bad enough for my poor mum when she saw my twisted motorbike being loaded onto a truck on the side of the road as she was heading home, I can’t possibly imagine what it would have been like for her if someone had sent a video of me being slammed into, or the paramedics tending me on the side of the road.
You have to be wrong in the head to film something like this in the first place, never mind send it to the victims family, wtf.
I sometimes wish I could be this German police officer when getting filmed at public cardiac arrests:
https://youtu.be/8ffetIbzyK8?si=ep6eDhNPsOYhNBPv
My dad had a pretty bad accident where he got trapped under his motorbike and it set him and his clothing on fire (wearing good protective gear saved him from a lot worse but he was still badly banged up). When I picked him up from the hospital it really traumatized him that there were people there on the sidelines but no one helped, they just filmed him as he struggled to get out from under a fiery bike and the woman who hit him stood there completely delirious with panic. The detached inhumanity of it really got to him. This was like 2016 so I can only imagine it’s got much worse now.
Why on earth would someone in that context pull out their phone and film. Where is the humanity? The sense of protecting someone else’s dignity?
I’d like to think if this happened near me that I’d respond and help the person in need!
I’ve had to call 999 four times in the last five years. Its not something you expect to have to do or know how to respond. Each and every time I’ve had amazing call handlers who have been calm and helped massively in the stressful situation. To all of them I salute you.
For those filming and not doing anything? All I can think is that they have never had to call 999 for someone they care about, because if they had, filming would be the last fucking thing on their mind.
People steal from patients/ambulances in the street. People filming for clout does not surprise me.
We do BLS at work, You have a 5% survival rate if you have a heart attack on the street and drop, That 95% will either be unable or unwilling to perform CPR.
People are morons. I agree with her it should be illegal. Feels like we are living in an episode of Black Mirror.
>This proposed law is not about censorship, it is about decency, dignity and the right to grieve in peace.
This goes for **any** footage of war. This “it hurts my feelings therefore should be banned” attitude in this country is getting extremely old.
It’s very distasteful but making it illegal is just absolute bullshit.