What Russians says about holodomor

That first guy looked like he might have a guilty conscience about it until he started calling the question provocative

Holdomor is not talked nearly enough about in the world. I live in Sweden and had never heard of Holdomor until i was 16. School had never even mentioned it before then and i know many people who still don’t know what holdomor is.

Communist states crimes against humanity is not talked nearly enough about overall. How often do we hear about the genocide in Cambodia for example. I had never heard about that before i was 16 either. 

We talk about the holocaust alot which we should but we should talk more about what communism has done aswell

For the video, they are brainwashed. I don’t know what more to say

“…. there are many enemies now….” count me as one, I’m at my core, a pacifist, but this Russia and these Russians are a blight that needs to be contained and defanged. There will be less “enemies” when Russians stop their murdering ways.

Are you trying to provoke me? Um no, don’t shift it just because you’re so uneducated 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Why are you being so provocative” -> continues attacking your country.

In their tiny and brainwashed heads ruzzians are always the victim and never at fault at anything.

It’s people and their country are like a true narcissist. They play the victim, even if they are the ones doing all the bs. Then they blame the other country that they “had to do it”, because of this that and that.

The saddest thing is that this is how they have been throughout history and I have little belief or hope that they will change. They are all brainwashed since childhood to have this russian mind.

Absolute trash of a country and people. Not obviously everyone, but it seems like a vast majority of them.

just a bunch of brain dead zombies, thinking that posters and propaganda was the real life, Stalin was a monster, probably worse than Hitler…

Brainrotten population.

I lived in Russia for a period of time as a foreigner. My wife is Ukrainian and I attended University there for a political science doctoral program. Naturally, because of my field of study, the topic of the Holodomor came up more than once. I was immediately shut down by my Russian colleagues and advisors every time with the same line. “The Holodomor was not just in Ukraine, it was in Russia and Kazakhstan too. It was a Soviet Famine, not a Ukrainian one.” Essentially, their approach was not to deny it but to say that it was simply a great tragedy (man made or not) that affected Russia and Ukraine both and wasn’t targeting Ukraine specifically. What they absolutely did not mention, is that the region of Russia it affected (the Kuban) had a population that was actually majority Ukrainian, constituting approximately 3.1 million ethnic Ukrainians at that time. By the end of the Holodomor, that Ukrainian population in the Kuban dropped to an estimated 150,000. I also heard the argument that the population of Ukraine actually rose by 6% between 1926 and 1939. Therefore, whatever happened during the famine must be grossly inflated. You might look at those numbers and think the same but then you should take into account that between those same years, the census showed that the ethnic Ukrainian population dropped by 10%. So the population of Ukraine rose, but the ethnic population dropped drastically. It’s pretty obvious to me that the Holodomor was a famine designed to target specifically ethnic Ukrainians in the Donbas and Kuban which it did successfully and after which, ethnic Russians were moved into the affected regions to replace them. I never once heard Russians acknowledge this and I don’t think we ever will.

In relation to Stalin, the best example I have of how Russians view him can be summed up through a conversation I had with a colleague while discussing Ivan the Terrible. We were visiting a site outside Moscow built by Ivan IV and my colleague asked me, “Tell me, what do you know of Ivan IV? Who was he to you? What did he do? How do you Westerners view him?” I ran through what I knew of him, both good and bad. He defeated Kazan and established the Tzardom of Russia becoming the first Tzar. Consolidated power and brought the Boyars under his control. Committed great massacres of Russia’s enemies. Terrorized the countryside with his Optiichnia (secret police). Descended into paranoia, ordering atrocities against his own people until he killed his son in a bout of rage and effectively brought about the end of his own dynasty. My colleague nodded and said, “yes, all of this is accurate. Now how do you think we Russians view Ivan IV?” I told him I didn’t know. He smiled and said “We think he was necessary. And we think the same of Stalin. Terrible men who did terrible things, but Russia would not have survived without them. And for that, we Russians must respect them.”
That was an eye opening experience for me as it taught me what Russians ultimately valued. This was not an uneducated poor country boy. He was a fellow doctoral student whose great grandparents had been forcefully deported by Stalin to Siberia. Russians will accept a totalitarian because they feel only a dictator can hold their country together. All the crimes the government commit against their own people and other countries are acceptable because all that matters at the end of the day is that the state remains intact.

Regular Russian scumbags. I love how they labelled the 2nd guy as SerGAY. 😂