I love seeing the Lib Dems get bold again. Looks like they’ve found a new niche.
Brexit was a failure and it’s about time we all admitted it instead of looking for new scapegoats.
I also think it’s time to choose between a pro-EU path or an anti-EU path. This is especially a question Labour should be asking itself, as Tories and Reform are sticking to the anti-EU path.
IgneousJam on
The Illiberal Autocrats strike again. “Liberal” but don’t like free speech. “Democrats” but don’t like the outcomes of referenda that they don’t win.
thealexweb on
“new EU trade deals with third countries.”
This bit is nearly pointless. So much bickering and infighting from vested interests from individual member states. Will there ever be a new trade deal with the EU? I can’t think of any new ones since the South American one in 2019.
Fresh_Mountain_Snow on
A vote to join the EU isnt necessarily a vote for growth. EU growth has been appealing over the last decade. Internal uk problems need to be solved.
Easymodelife on
Good, this is a sensible first step to repairing the damage that the Brexit disaster has caused.
Mr_XcX on
Pathetic. Other countries in EU doing worse than us.
Remainers lost get over it.
grapplinggigahertz on
A Customs Union isn’t a Single Market and would achieve little itself unless you were using it as a symbol of an intention to move back into the EU (assuming they would have us and didn’t do another ‘de Gaulle’).
A Customs Union simply aligns customs duties between countries, but doesn’t remove the requirement to do the import/export paperwork and all the other checks that must take place as goods move between countries.
With the UK forming a Customs Union with the EU would inevitably mean the UK bowing to the decision of the other 27 countries in respect of trade agreements with the rest of the world with little or no influence over the decision.
Overall it seems like a typical LibDem suggestion – one that is performative and not actually useful, even if it was voted through, which it won’t be.
ftatman on
Ah yes, I’m sure the British public will love to go through another multi-year negotiation with the EU, grinding most other things to a halt. *eye roll*
hu6Bi5To on
And what power does the Lib Dems possess to force the EU to do anything?
mixxituk on
I fucking miss EU so much but can we please not get caught in a quagmire of this again
We just really have to focus on energy and housing right now
lisa_lionheart on
Is this even on the cards from the EU side? I always thought freedom of movement was required for them to agree to this?
Astriania on
National scale virtue signalling, I hope it makes them feel good.
Unless they’re proposing May’s deal (in which case there is a small chance), anything they want us to create obviously requires a negotiation with the EU, which isn’t likely to be smooth sailing, would take ages and open up arguments better left dead. So this is a completely impractical suggestion.
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I love seeing the Lib Dems get bold again. Looks like they’ve found a new niche.
Brexit was a failure and it’s about time we all admitted it instead of looking for new scapegoats.
I also think it’s time to choose between a pro-EU path or an anti-EU path. This is especially a question Labour should be asking itself, as Tories and Reform are sticking to the anti-EU path.
The Illiberal Autocrats strike again. “Liberal” but don’t like free speech. “Democrats” but don’t like the outcomes of referenda that they don’t win.
“new EU trade deals with third countries.”
This bit is nearly pointless. So much bickering and infighting from vested interests from individual member states. Will there ever be a new trade deal with the EU? I can’t think of any new ones since the South American one in 2019.
A vote to join the EU isnt necessarily a vote for growth. EU growth has been appealing over the last decade. Internal uk problems need to be solved.
Good, this is a sensible first step to repairing the damage that the Brexit disaster has caused.
Pathetic. Other countries in EU doing worse than us.
Remainers lost get over it.
A Customs Union isn’t a Single Market and would achieve little itself unless you were using it as a symbol of an intention to move back into the EU (assuming they would have us and didn’t do another ‘de Gaulle’).
A Customs Union simply aligns customs duties between countries, but doesn’t remove the requirement to do the import/export paperwork and all the other checks that must take place as goods move between countries.
With the UK forming a Customs Union with the EU would inevitably mean the UK bowing to the decision of the other 27 countries in respect of trade agreements with the rest of the world with little or no influence over the decision.
Overall it seems like a typical LibDem suggestion – one that is performative and not actually useful, even if it was voted through, which it won’t be.
Ah yes, I’m sure the British public will love to go through another multi-year negotiation with the EU, grinding most other things to a halt. *eye roll*
And what power does the Lib Dems possess to force the EU to do anything?
I fucking miss EU so much but can we please not get caught in a quagmire of this again
We just really have to focus on energy and housing right now
Is this even on the cards from the EU side? I always thought freedom of movement was required for them to agree to this?
National scale virtue signalling, I hope it makes them feel good.
Unless they’re proposing May’s deal (in which case there is a small chance), anything they want us to create obviously requires a negotiation with the EU, which isn’t likely to be smooth sailing, would take ages and open up arguments better left dead. So this is a completely impractical suggestion.