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    State pensioners with no other income will not pay tax

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    2. trmetroidmaniac on

      Another tax break for pensioners, on top of the existing ones (no NI) and the other ones that were just announced (no Cash ISA limit cut). Fantastic.

    3. TheFergPunk on

      Look Im all in favour of scrapping the triple lock, but this doesn’t bother me at all. If your only income is the state pension that’s not a lot to go on and at that age it’s not realistic to expect you to go back into the workforce.

    4. Minimum-Geologist-58 on

      This is pretty daft. So if you have my AB foods pension of £200 total (as in that’s all I have invested in it) you pay tax but if you’ve never worked a day in your life you don’t? Clearly policy made utterly on the fly.

    6. jackinatent on

      I genuinely don’t understand why the state pension isn’t

      a) much more generous; and

      b) means tested with awards on a sliding scale

    8. Apsalar28 on

      Apply the triple lock to the tax free allowance,

      Or link it to state pension so the tax free allowance is always state pension + £10

      If it’s that much of a problem.

    9. iain_1986 on

      I mean, just from a logistics POV surely this makes sense.

      If you’re going to give out a state benefit, then just take some of it back, why bother giving that bit out in the first place? Either lower the benefit, or make it tax free because otherwise aren’t we just wasting time/effort/**money** on processing the whole thing?

    10. d0ey on

      You can argue about numbers and percentages and whatever else, but this is, again, a clear statement that the government is treating pensioners far better than working age people. The cutoff for the WFA was set at the median wage. And now working aged people will be taxed when pensioners won’t be.

      It’s also more likely that a pensioner will have a stable home of some form and fewer bills/dependents

      That’s the kind of message this government is clearly comfortable standing behind, and that’s why so many people are pissed off.

    12. concretepigeon on

      Cool how we voted for the party who didn’t promise the quadruple lock, but we got it anyway.

    13. derrenbrownisawizard on

      Forgive me if I’ve misunderstood this-

      The state pension equates to £12,548 from 2026, the basic rate of tax is £12,570 so they wouldn’t pay any tax anyway?

    15. Snoot_Booper_101 on

      Great, let’s throw even more money at the elderly. Maybe they’ll stop voting for Farage then. /s

      Counter proposal: tie the state pension and the zero rate of tax together, so that if one does up, they both do. To make this sustainable, the triple lock should be changed to be the average of the three measures, not the largest of the three every time (this is the bit that makes it a magic money tree that funnels ever more money from working people to the elderly). That way both the zero tax band and the old age pension track the economy in general.

    16. Loreki on

      If it is fair to ask someone who is young, working and only earns ~13,000 a year to pay a bit of tax, it’s also fair to ask that of a pensioner.

      Now I suspect the more just answer all round is to allow the personal allowance to rise with inflation so that neither of those people pay. However if you’re taking Rachel Reeves’ line and asking a broader base of people to contribute, pensioners shouldn’t get special treatment.

    17. finniruse on

      Here’s what I think is going to happen.

      Towards the end of their term, Labour are going to realise just how terribly they’ve overlooked and fucked over the working person.

      They’re going to come back begging and grovelling.

      Especially because the miserable pensioners still don’t like Labour despite being supported at every stage, and because of the initial winter fuel mistake.

      Then they’re out. “Where did it all go wrong?”

      20 years of no labour.

    18. Dry_Yogurt2458 on

      It’s interesting how many people are totally against providing the poorest pensioners with any income that is not taxed.

      Are all of your grandparents rich ??

      Are you also against the thousands of ex servicemen and women that are receiving a tax free war pension despite not being anywhere near pensionable age ??