U.S. Military Nightmare: China Wants NGAD 6th Generation Fighters – China unveiled a mockup of its sixth-generation fighter in 2021, aiming for deployment by 2035…
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-military-nightmare-china-wants-ngad-6th-generation-fighters-210263
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From the article
>The United States and China are racing to develop sixth-generation warplanes, signaling intense military rivalry in a multipolar world. China unveiled a mockup of its sixth-generation fighter in 2021, aiming for deployment by 2035, while the U.S. targets 2030 for its “Next-Generation Air Dominance” (NGAD) platform.
a mockup does not make a 6th generation fighter, or even a fighter at all.
I have a feeling 6th gen is stiff far away. how long did it take for the F35 to come into service?
The people shitting bricks over concepts and mockups would be hilarious if they didn’t control the budget and the military industrial complex.
I think China should focus more on getting the engines on their 5th(ish) generation fighter to actually work… China won’t have a 6th generation fighter until 2040 at the earliest. Probably 2045-2050. Meanwhile the US already has prototypes. Though they probably won’t be ready to be used til 2030 at the earliest. Just like how it was with the F-22 and F-35 getting everything integrated is a long and complicated process.
China don’t design anything. They steal intellectual property including military technology from other countries using any means possible, mainly cyber espionage
They literally don’t have the culture to think laterally or innovate themselves.
*”My God, it’s full of canards.”*
China needs to learn to make good aircraft engines first. The fact that they almost assuredly have stolen enough of the plans for the F119 and F135 and *still can’t build them* means that they’re stuck at “Gen 4.9” until they get that licked.
Copying Russian designs and then trying to fix the fact that they’re fuel-inefficient and have a nasty knack of prematurely *eating themselves* is not the best place to start from.
A bit off topic, but National Interest shows up in my Google feed a lot. Does anyone find their insistence on using “nightmare” in something like 90% of their headlines really off-putting?
Fine. May China’s effort be every bit as expensive, inefficient, and wasteful as American fighter development.
America’s 5th generation fighter program (the F-35) was an *enormous* money pit, and I don’t believe the 6th Gen process is going to be any better.
If China wants to burn money trying to keep up, let them.
So they revealed a mockup 3 years ago and it’s due to come out in 11 years… Why are we talking about this now?
Look at the headline and tell me what “wants” means? Just because a county WANTS something doesn’t mean they will achieve it. As they say “people in hell want ice water”
I believe this is propaganda meant to startle Americans and get them to spend money in the wrong direction. Remember Reagan, USSR, and the Star Wars defense program?
I think that eventually Americans militarily will be overtaken when the entire way of fighting a war changes almost overnight. No one can defeat the US on the battlefield with how wars are fought now. To defeat them, you need to change how wars are fought.
Remember, China has a significant chunk of the world’s manufacturing base.
A single warship or aircraft carrier is going to have a hard time dealing with a swarm of thousands of armed drones with offensive capabilities.
I also think about what that means for invading a country. Hundreds of thousands of small drones and bots swarm in and clean out everything ahead of armed soldiers showing up with boots on the ground.
So, use smoke and mirrors to get them to influence resource movements in a certain way, while you plot and plan to move another way.
With all the problems the PLAAF has been having with the J-20, let alone the J-31/35, I doubt this thing is a “nightmare” to the USAF. I’d say the cruise missiles are a much bigger worry for them.
More a nightmare for China to develop and get combat ready than a nightmare for the US.
I thought that refueling pipe was a photoshopped bike pump attachment but it appears it’s a copy paste of [the real thing](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hyw2DGsGnlAVT1s12e7MIwHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=09c9669c813d3410252641c6dda4930780c91e905fe4a0fc1c5ddc338fba8e50&ipo=images).
They don’t really have a 5th gen fighter.
F35s main advantage is networking as weird as that sounds. F35 can provide targetting data for almost anything it spots and feed it back to command who can use it to coordinate other attacks.
If an f35 spots you the entirety of NATO has seen you too.
This is another scare tactic. Do not fall for this. The U.S. is too far ahead in terms of military tech when it comes to certain technology tge article is nothing more than hyperbole and a true scare tactic we need infurtructure un this country not more planes
So after Xi dies of old age. China could be a very different country by then.
China’s tech, for decades, has been based on knock off American designs, and Russian. And we all know how well Russian tech has worked out.. pretty sure America is very much the one every is afraid of when it comes to military tech, by and large, and no one will ever get close to them short of a major political shake up.
I’m not an expert but I was under the impression the China’s current gen fighter are flying pigs with very limited capabilities compared to its peers.
I don’t doubt they are on a sharp learning curve when it comes to aircraft development but it seems like a big jump for them to produce a native fighter that would trouble what the Western nations will be fielding by 2035.
Does anyone believe that we will have fighter pilots in 2040?