This should not be a controversial position. It’s self evident and should be done.
somnamna2516 on
More gravitas when it’s the government and high profile ministers saying what everyone with half a brain is thinking.
YOU_CANT_GILD_ME on
Of course it would. Anyone with more than two brain cells can tell you it would.
Now watch the mental gymnastics as people try to tell you this will be bad.
daiwilly on
No shit Sherlock!! Fuck me, all years listening to the Brexit bullshit for this?????? AAARRGGHH!!
Accomplished_Pen5061 on
It’s important to know that if we did this we would have to ditch our free trade deal with India and would mean we’d have higher tariffs on our trade with the US.
It’s not an awful idea but it’s not a free lunch.
Current_Case7806 on
Also, the original vote (now surely obsolete a decade on) said our place in the custom union and freedom of movement were never in doubt…so you can just do it as part of the original mandate. if anyone objects, point out they didn’t know what they were voting for….
Itsstillyourturn on
Can I be the one to mention that Lammy voted FOR the referendum legislation, Lammy voted to trigger A50 (without any plan or deal in place) voted AGAINST May’s nice soft Brexit, then voted FOR Johnsons shit trade deal after to agreeing to an afternoons scrutiny.
I get the feeling Labour MPs are starting to get a bit of buyers regret.
FarSplit on
We could rejoin the Customs Union and the EC/EA/EFTA, and STILL be outside the EU. This would deliver on the sovereignty and control promise of Brexit.
As an aside, the Brexit referendum question was, “Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union”.
There was no mention of the Customs Union or EC. So there was non democratic mandate for leaving those institutions.
Jedibeeftrix on
It really won’t. We have largely tariff free access anyway.
The friction that exists comes from regulatory standards of the single market.
If what he is attempting to do here is start a ratchet process of re-integration he needs to be honest and say so…?
Because single market comes with deep political implications and integration. No thanks.
brrlls on
So I voted to leave. But it was a considered and justified vote.
I have no objection to this. It’s about time the government put aside ideology and worked on what is in the best interests of the nation, and if that means upsetting people… So be it.
Caesar171 on
If we never joined the EU and subsequently never left it. Everyone would be screaming to join the customs union. But since we’re now so divided anything like this will just be accused of trying to reverse Brexit
ii-_- on
Please please please just make it happen and ignore the nonsense right wing media trying to spin this in any way they can
endianess on
He says these things to distract away from his own department’s problems. Concentrate on the job you have been assigned or let someone else more capable do it.
AnalThermometer on
So the UK negotiates deals with India, Australia, gets USA tariff exemptions and other benefits for years and now wants to invalidate them by joining a low growth customs union? With a block we already have an FTA with?
That OBR figure quoted of 4% lower long run GDP was under modelled assumption of no FTA and lower immigration by the way. We had a very fast FTA and incredibly high immigration, making it a useless figure today.
thealexweb on
This would surely terminate all the UK’s new trade deals. Should we really give these up?
greenpowerman99 on
Rejoining the Customs Union would also boost the EU economy. Win-Win…
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This should not be a controversial position. It’s self evident and should be done.
More gravitas when it’s the government and high profile ministers saying what everyone with half a brain is thinking.
Of course it would. Anyone with more than two brain cells can tell you it would.
Now watch the mental gymnastics as people try to tell you this will be bad.
No shit Sherlock!! Fuck me, all years listening to the Brexit bullshit for this?????? AAARRGGHH!!
It’s important to know that if we did this we would have to ditch our free trade deal with India and would mean we’d have higher tariffs on our trade with the US.
It’s not an awful idea but it’s not a free lunch.
Also, the original vote (now surely obsolete a decade on) said our place in the custom union and freedom of movement were never in doubt…so you can just do it as part of the original mandate. if anyone objects, point out they didn’t know what they were voting for….
Can I be the one to mention that Lammy voted FOR the referendum legislation, Lammy voted to trigger A50 (without any plan or deal in place) voted AGAINST May’s nice soft Brexit, then voted FOR Johnsons shit trade deal after to agreeing to an afternoons scrutiny.
I get the feeling Labour MPs are starting to get a bit of buyers regret.
We could rejoin the Customs Union and the EC/EA/EFTA, and STILL be outside the EU. This would deliver on the sovereignty and control promise of Brexit.
As an aside, the Brexit referendum question was, “Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union”.
There was no mention of the Customs Union or EC. So there was non democratic mandate for leaving those institutions.
It really won’t. We have largely tariff free access anyway.
The friction that exists comes from regulatory standards of the single market.
If what he is attempting to do here is start a ratchet process of re-integration he needs to be honest and say so…?
Because single market comes with deep political implications and integration. No thanks.
So I voted to leave. But it was a considered and justified vote.
I have no objection to this. It’s about time the government put aside ideology and worked on what is in the best interests of the nation, and if that means upsetting people… So be it.
If we never joined the EU and subsequently never left it. Everyone would be screaming to join the customs union. But since we’re now so divided anything like this will just be accused of trying to reverse Brexit
Please please please just make it happen and ignore the nonsense right wing media trying to spin this in any way they can
He says these things to distract away from his own department’s problems. Concentrate on the job you have been assigned or let someone else more capable do it.
So the UK negotiates deals with India, Australia, gets USA tariff exemptions and other benefits for years and now wants to invalidate them by joining a low growth customs union? With a block we already have an FTA with?
That OBR figure quoted of 4% lower long run GDP was under modelled assumption of no FTA and lower immigration by the way. We had a very fast FTA and incredibly high immigration, making it a useless figure today.
This would surely terminate all the UK’s new trade deals. Should we really give these up?
Rejoining the Customs Union would also boost the EU economy. Win-Win…