Spared jail because she’s a woman who obviously was not in a position to be able to deal with such complex problems like tyre pressures.
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WetDogDeodourant on
It’s her children that died, the people in the other car were all seriously hurt.
I get people ‘demand justice’ and that, but she’s never underestimating car safety again, and her story raises the importance of maintaining a vehicle in other drivers minds.
Prison is for reformation, if used as punishment it’s cruel and ineffective, this woman has been delivered a simple lesson in the hardest way possible, she doesn’t need further punishment, what she needed was a little course in car maintenance and its importance.
The driving licence test has questions in it showing that you know how it works, but it’s simplified to a quick question like ‘point out the screen wash fill cap’ if even asked.
I think like the fire service go round schools talking about basic home safety, we should have stuff like that in adult life, people forget and grow complacent, immigrants come with different standards at home, we (our government) spend millions every year on all sorts of projects that I’m sure have their values or don’t, but like could we not have a program for reminding adults of basic things, like fire and cars, that save lives?
Like I’ve seen adverts in service station toilets reminding people to get left on the hard shoulder if they break down and I laugh, like figure me, who are they reaching out to that doesn’t get off the road if they breakdown. But also, how many times have I seen people broken down in the fast lane, or we all avoid crashes right? There’s someone crashed every week on my commute. The forest where I live has multiple fires every summer.
CPR is worth knowing, you don’t have to reach everyone with that, but every large room should have someone who knows how to save lives in it.
Like with the millions we spend on benefits, surely we can hire someone to go workplace to workplace teaching people stuff that avoids random death, or just post leaflets to every home?
Talysn on
I dont get why there is any leniency here.
She was responsible for the proper upkeep of the vehicle and her negligence caused the death of 2 people.
She should be in jail.
Jealous_Lobster_36 on
It seems the circumstances of the accident were clearly punishment enough for this woman, especially losing her children. Sending her to prison wouldn’t serve any purpose.
That said, there really is no excuse for driving around on a flat tyre, especially with children in the car. She completely ignored the inherent risks and responsibilities that come with running a car and that led to 2 children being killed and 3 people being seriously injured. I completely understand why the father of her children won’t forgive her; it’s difficult to forgive this level of recklessness from anybody.
People really need to take driving more seriously, and some drivers really need to quash this mindset of “I don’t know anything about cars, I need somebody else to deal with it for me.”
It’s absolutely unacceptable to shirk your responsibilities like that for any reason. If you’re not confident dealing with extremely basic maintenance like checking the oil, washer fluid or tyres of a car, you’re not ready to drive unsupervised.
BEETHR33 on
This isn’t a genuine mistake, this is just pure stupidity.
She should be in jail.
From the highway code:
Laws RTA 1988 sect 42 & CUR reg 32
Tyres. Tyres MUST be correctly inflated to the vehicle manufacturer’s specification for the load being carried. Always refer to the vehicle’s handbook or data. Tyres should also be free from certain cuts and other defects.
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Tyre pressures. Check weekly. Do this before your journey, when tyres are cold. Warm or hot tyres may give a misleading reading.
Your brakes and steering will be adversely affected by under-inflated or over-inflated tyres. Excessive or uneven tyre wear may be caused by faults in the braking or suspension systems, or wheels which are out of alignment. Have these faults corrected as soon as possible.
VunterSlaush_117 on
Utter and complete negligence, both by her and the ‘justice’ system. I’d be pleading to be jailed, be the only place to try and rectify the guilt of being responsible for the death of your own kids.
Something needs done not only when it comes to sentences for women, but driving offences overall.
nellion91 on
I’m struggling with this.
Who is representing the two dead children?
Is she hurting and will be hurting for the rest of her life? Yes but two citizen were killed as a direct result of her actions.
I don’t feel this should not be met by a custodial sentence.
Prisons are full of people that now regret and feel bad for the victim of their crimes, some of those victims were family members.
Dystopian_Everyday on
> ‘Whatever sentence I impose will not alter what has happened,’ the judge said
That’s not what sentences are for. No sentence for any crime can alter the past, it’s there to protect us from people who are dangerous to society. Can’t get more dangerous than this and the consequences prove it.
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Trentdison on
That’s absolutely horrendous, I can’t even imagine.
Sunshinetrooper87 on
What speed was she going at? The article says the speed limit but for both kids to die whilst in appropriate restrained kid chairs, seems horrifically unfortunate?
LegendaryTJC on
This is the right decision. Poor woman. She will never recover from this.
namegame62 on
God, this is a horror.
I live next to a main road. It’s incredible the number of people who drive on tyres so badly deflated that you can actually hear the difference between them and other cars as they’re driving past…
Every time it happens (and I’d say it’s at least once a month, just that I notice) I hope they’re on their way to a garage or petrol station
TobyADev on
I know she’s only banned for 2 years but that trauma will haunt her a lifetime and she won’t drive for far longer than 2y
She absolutely should’ve got this fixed before. But I think that sentence is appropriate
PrestigiousTest6700 on
This reminds of the most harrowing episode of Ask me Anything on Netflix. However she is incredibly accountable for the maintenance of her vehicle this wasn’t a freak accident, this was absolutely her responsibility to maintain the car.
notimefornothing55 on
Not gonna lie i drive a lot for work, around 40,000 miles a year. I had 2 blow outs in the last year. Both times I realised something was up, stopped, looked at the tyre, realised it was close to flat, tried to limp it off the dual carriageway or A road that I was on to the nearest garage, (no more than 10 mph with hazzards on) got about 50 metres before realising the trye was ripping intself apart, stopped and put the space saver on. You know when you’ve got a flat, and if you don’t you shouldn’t be driving. That being said, I suspect finances were a lot to do with this, I know a few people who wouldn’t be able to afford a new tyre out of the blue. Sadly this cost her her sons lives. Space savers or spare wheels should be mandatory and putting one on should be in the driving test. In this case it might have tied her over. Unfortunately these days a lot of cars don’t come with a spare, you just get a 12v compressor and a pack of slime.
External-Piccolo-626 on
You only have to look at how many cars have headlights out or at MoT time needs new tyres, unfortunately car maintenance isn’t always taken seriously.
AI-Slop-Bot on
The other day a man was put in jail because he had machinery on a trailer and he showed negligence by not checking it after stopping. The strap had sheared and it unfortunately led to the machinery falling off during a turn and killing a woman. He will spend 5 years in prison.
This woman knowingly drove around with a flat tyre leading to the deaths of two children and life threatening injuries for three others. Bizarre judgement showing the structural sexism within the judiciary.
The headline alone makes it sound like there is no benefit to society from imprisoning this person, and the details in the story make that even clearer.
These ‘spared jail’ headlines make it sound like the person *should* have *obviously* been jailed, and like prisons are somehow cost-free for society to run.
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Spared jail because she’s a woman who obviously was not in a position to be able to deal with such complex problems like tyre pressures.
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It’s her children that died, the people in the other car were all seriously hurt.
I get people ‘demand justice’ and that, but she’s never underestimating car safety again, and her story raises the importance of maintaining a vehicle in other drivers minds.
Prison is for reformation, if used as punishment it’s cruel and ineffective, this woman has been delivered a simple lesson in the hardest way possible, she doesn’t need further punishment, what she needed was a little course in car maintenance and its importance.
The driving licence test has questions in it showing that you know how it works, but it’s simplified to a quick question like ‘point out the screen wash fill cap’ if even asked.
I think like the fire service go round schools talking about basic home safety, we should have stuff like that in adult life, people forget and grow complacent, immigrants come with different standards at home, we (our government) spend millions every year on all sorts of projects that I’m sure have their values or don’t, but like could we not have a program for reminding adults of basic things, like fire and cars, that save lives?
Like I’ve seen adverts in service station toilets reminding people to get left on the hard shoulder if they break down and I laugh, like figure me, who are they reaching out to that doesn’t get off the road if they breakdown. But also, how many times have I seen people broken down in the fast lane, or we all avoid crashes right? There’s someone crashed every week on my commute. The forest where I live has multiple fires every summer.
CPR is worth knowing, you don’t have to reach everyone with that, but every large room should have someone who knows how to save lives in it.
Like with the millions we spend on benefits, surely we can hire someone to go workplace to workplace teaching people stuff that avoids random death, or just post leaflets to every home?
I dont get why there is any leniency here.
She was responsible for the proper upkeep of the vehicle and her negligence caused the death of 2 people.
She should be in jail.
It seems the circumstances of the accident were clearly punishment enough for this woman, especially losing her children. Sending her to prison wouldn’t serve any purpose.
That said, there really is no excuse for driving around on a flat tyre, especially with children in the car. She completely ignored the inherent risks and responsibilities that come with running a car and that led to 2 children being killed and 3 people being seriously injured. I completely understand why the father of her children won’t forgive her; it’s difficult to forgive this level of recklessness from anybody.
People really need to take driving more seriously, and some drivers really need to quash this mindset of “I don’t know anything about cars, I need somebody else to deal with it for me.”
It’s absolutely unacceptable to shirk your responsibilities like that for any reason. If you’re not confident dealing with extremely basic maintenance like checking the oil, washer fluid or tyres of a car, you’re not ready to drive unsupervised.
This isn’t a genuine mistake, this is just pure stupidity.
She should be in jail.
From the highway code:
Laws RTA 1988 sect 42 & CUR reg 32
Tyres. Tyres MUST be correctly inflated to the vehicle manufacturer’s specification for the load being carried. Always refer to the vehicle’s handbook or data. Tyres should also be free from certain cuts and other defects.
–
Tyre pressures. Check weekly. Do this before your journey, when tyres are cold. Warm or hot tyres may give a misleading reading.
Your brakes and steering will be adversely affected by under-inflated or over-inflated tyres. Excessive or uneven tyre wear may be caused by faults in the braking or suspension systems, or wheels which are out of alignment. Have these faults corrected as soon as possible.
Utter and complete negligence, both by her and the ‘justice’ system. I’d be pleading to be jailed, be the only place to try and rectify the guilt of being responsible for the death of your own kids.
Something needs done not only when it comes to sentences for women, but driving offences overall.
I’m struggling with this.
Who is representing the two dead children?
Is she hurting and will be hurting for the rest of her life? Yes but two citizen were killed as a direct result of her actions.
I don’t feel this should not be met by a custodial sentence.
Prisons are full of people that now regret and feel bad for the victim of their crimes, some of those victims were family members.
> ‘Whatever sentence I impose will not alter what has happened,’ the judge said
That’s not what sentences are for. No sentence for any crime can alter the past, it’s there to protect us from people who are dangerous to society. Can’t get more dangerous than this and the consequences prove it.
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That’s absolutely horrendous, I can’t even imagine.
What speed was she going at? The article says the speed limit but for both kids to die whilst in appropriate restrained kid chairs, seems horrifically unfortunate?
This is the right decision. Poor woman. She will never recover from this.
God, this is a horror.
I live next to a main road. It’s incredible the number of people who drive on tyres so badly deflated that you can actually hear the difference between them and other cars as they’re driving past…
Every time it happens (and I’d say it’s at least once a month, just that I notice) I hope they’re on their way to a garage or petrol station
I know she’s only banned for 2 years but that trauma will haunt her a lifetime and she won’t drive for far longer than 2y
She absolutely should’ve got this fixed before. But I think that sentence is appropriate
This reminds of the most harrowing episode of Ask me Anything on Netflix. However she is incredibly accountable for the maintenance of her vehicle this wasn’t a freak accident, this was absolutely her responsibility to maintain the car.
Not gonna lie i drive a lot for work, around 40,000 miles a year. I had 2 blow outs in the last year. Both times I realised something was up, stopped, looked at the tyre, realised it was close to flat, tried to limp it off the dual carriageway or A road that I was on to the nearest garage, (no more than 10 mph with hazzards on) got about 50 metres before realising the trye was ripping intself apart, stopped and put the space saver on. You know when you’ve got a flat, and if you don’t you shouldn’t be driving. That being said, I suspect finances were a lot to do with this, I know a few people who wouldn’t be able to afford a new tyre out of the blue. Sadly this cost her her sons lives. Space savers or spare wheels should be mandatory and putting one on should be in the driving test. In this case it might have tied her over. Unfortunately these days a lot of cars don’t come with a spare, you just get a 12v compressor and a pack of slime.
You only have to look at how many cars have headlights out or at MoT time needs new tyres, unfortunately car maintenance isn’t always taken seriously.
The other day a man was put in jail because he had machinery on a trailer and he showed negligence by not checking it after stopping. The strap had sheared and it unfortunately led to the machinery falling off during a turn and killing a woman. He will spend 5 years in prison.
This woman knowingly drove around with a flat tyre leading to the deaths of two children and life threatening injuries for three others. Bizarre judgement showing the structural sexism within the judiciary.
https://uknip.co.uk/news/uk/breaking/driver-jailed-over-drilling-rig-death-of-mental-health-worker/
The headline alone makes it sound like there is no benefit to society from imprisoning this person, and the details in the story make that even clearer.
These ‘spared jail’ headlines make it sound like the person *should* have *obviously* been jailed, and like prisons are somehow cost-free for society to run.