General election 2024: ITV debate snap poll
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49618-general-election-2024-itv-debate-snap-poll
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General election 2024: ITV debate snap poll
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49618-general-election-2024-itv-debate-snap-poll
Posted by WeightDimensions
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Did Starmer mention what his father did for a living?
Starmer was flat, Sunak acted like a prat, and the host couldn’t moderate. The audience didn’t exactly seem representative of what I would’ve thought either; far more over-65s than necessary (the Question Time Special).
Overall, I think that was the worst political debate I have ever seen.
This was conducted on respondents that voted 85% Tory in the last election (follow the link), so yeah. Also, rule number one of pollsters – never ever trust YouGov.
Turns out that £2000 figure from the treasury also mentions it is based on estimates given by torie special advisors.
Feel sorry for whoever they trot out for the morning news cycle.
I’m sure Rishi will feel pleased with his performance.
A fine pitch to his future Californian employers.
WRT to the election, inconsequential compared to other events this week.
Tbh the biggest thing i learnt was ITV can’t run a debate.
Honestly, this debate format is fucking horrible and is doing no favours to Starmer, Sunak or the voters. ITV put on a format to try and get quick one-liners for some bullshit news headline instead of actual debate.
Now to the debate. I personally think Starmer did better than I expected, and I believe he did better than Sunak, but neither did anything brilliant or said anything that was going to change the polls, but this format was truly tragic and a good representation of our current political situation.
Edit: I keep seeing the line of that Starmer didn’t mention a single policy. Come on, there are worse things to be critical of Starmer during this debate than that.
Just to mention a few policies, he said during the debate: National energy service based on green energy, stopping non-dom, taxing energy companies and raising VAT on private schools.
There was much to be desired with more concrete plans around a lot of other areas, it was very flat, but honestly, I think this debating method was useless and did more damage to everyone instead of good.
Miserable debate. Sunak was just flinging bullshit in the hope that something sticks, Starmer was nervous and totally incapable of answering most questions. Utterly incompetent moderation. Considering the terrible position Sunak is in, I think he did comparatively well, but that’s saying very little.
They were both shit. They are both shit. The epitome of modern politicians. Ugh.
Awful moderation…no control and allowed both to rattle off unchallenged and not answer any questions.
Awful audience that appeared to be forced to witness it. It’s like they were all sleep deprived for a week beforehand.
Sunak was doing ok on nhs until he fell into the trap to pay to jump the queue. The rest he looked hopeless and had nothing to say beyond “we are doing so well, let’s not let them ruin it”…whilst ignoring questions saying repeatedly how bad things are!
Starmer didn’t offer much. We got a start of a few anecdotes, but I found myself agreeing with farage…it is very boring
I am concluding that nobody has any clue how to take this country forward AND that they all know it, and that they’re even losing the will to pretend they know what to do.
>Most viewers found the debate a frustrating experience, at 62%
Here, here.
This debate won’t really change the polls. It was generally a nothingness with no big wins and nothing of any real substance from either side. It made both of them look worse.
The biggest clip that’s come out of this is Rishi looking weird at the start.
There was a question about the NHS which I think made a great point – Things are difficult right now, things are broken, and we need leadership that is honest about that with us. I feel like Sunak is spending his time pretending things are actually fine and dandy. Starmer is put in a hard position first acknowledging things are bad, and then having to be truthful *there is no easy fix*. I feel like the reason our politics and elections suck is that a huge number of people see that and come away thinking because Sunak sounds confident and is saying positive things, he kind of automatically wins.
E – Can I also just add how fucking flabbergasted I am that even after writing this, it took me a minute to clock… Sunak has ***non-stop*** made this point about Labour raising taxes. Mate *your fucking party* have raised taxes to the highest fucking level since WW2 and the country is still on fucking fire despite all that money flowing in. God it feels like we’re in fucking la-la land sometimes what even is this shit.
Starmer was far more human and genuine than Sunak but the format and the way it was handled was dire.
Basically just proved why TV debates are best left to the Yanks (and even then just for entertainment value)
Question. I was surprised neither mention large numbers of Hong Kong and Ukraine asylum/special immigration. Are these counted in normal immigration figs please?
If they are immigration will probably fall in the coming years. Particularly if Ukraine war concludes and thousands return home.
In the interviewers afterwards, every small party basically just said ‘Well Starmer winning is totally inevitable so were just trying to get a few more seats for 2029’.
Starmer’s DNA runs in his DNA and Rishi Balderick Sunak has a cunning plan.
All jokes aside, the real losers of this debate were those looking for actual answers.
Honestly it was just a bit grueling to watch, neither Sunak or Starmer are charismatic enough and by god does Julie Etchingham need to learn to moderate. They’d have been better off getting Peston to do it.
I don’t know who won but after watching that debate I’m pretty sure we all lost.
Kier Starmer could have a debate with himself and still lose.
Found Sunak insufferable to watch, he just kept cutting across everything, so frustrating! Felt Julie was a bit more lenient to Rishi than Kier, or maybe Kier respected more when she said enough rather than Rishi just ignoring all rules.
The format helped absolutely nobody and was terrible,Sunaks interrupting when almost unpunished,host was awful
Only winner was my wife,who was asleep
These stage managed fights are bullshit. It’s not about who comes across better on tv in these things for me. The last 14 years which have been an actual travesty and that decides where my vote is going.
Guys I heard that our taxes might go up £2000 if labour get in, has anyone else heard about the taxes going up £2000 if labour get in?
Wonder where I heard this weird thing about taxes going up £2000 if labour get in