Give it up mate. Saying you oppose the Israeli government and “globalise the intifada” are two completely different things.
Edit: this comment was originally in reply to someone saying that the government are arresting grannies rather than violent extremists. Sorry, not sure what happened there.
McFlyJohn on
Good?
For years now useless middle class morons have emboldened genuinely racist, anti semitic people to intimidate communities so they can feel progressive and righteous.
Hiding behind “oh I didn’t mean the widely accepted terms and connotations when I said the phrase” with a sense of smugness and 2:1 at Durham in Philosophy energy like they’ve found some loophole because they’re ever so clever.
Like in Manchester, If you’re “protesting” Gaza the days after a terrorist attack on Jewish people calling to “Globalise the Intifada” it’s really fucking clear what the implication and intent is.
But they think they’re so special because most of them have never faced any consequences in their lives. I hope the violent PA lot get the book thrown at them. Fuck Poppy, Jonty and Mungos hunger strikes
FinalInitiative4 on
I’m a massive advocate for free speech and hate the way things have gone in terms of policing speech.
However if you’re encouraging violence, regardless of how much you want to play dumb about it, you deserve punishment.
You know exactly what you mean and what you support when you say that phrase and we saw some of the sad effects of it in Australia mere days ago.
strongfavourite on
then just say it in plain English.. globalise the resistance. that’s much clearer and a lot harder to misrepresent
it’s still disgusting that a tragedy on the other side of the planet is being used to further curb free speech in the UK
jungleboy1234 on
2025 and we have sentiment in the UK from both sides of the argument like its building up to the crusades of the middle ages.
We have domestic human level issues that go beyond race, religion et al that i wish people would be out protesting or at least sitting down at a table and discussing solutions……
ah well give me the flack then, tell me i’m wrong.
Anon2971 on
yea I’m all for this tbh.
Several periods of violent unrest are named the first/second/third intifadas. Intifada on it’s own might just mean uprising, but given its historical context, you can’t blame people for now reading that saying as ‘globalise terrorism’. Free Palestine, but encouraging generalized, vague violence is never ok
darrenturn90 on
Its a very polarized debate. On the one side, the proponents using it point to the uprisings that occurred in Palestine usually after some incident caused by Israeli forces or Israeli intervention. On the other side, Jewish people could very easily take the phrase to be confrontational and offensive – and to believe it as a call for violence (of which both previous uprisings had their fair share of).
My opinion (that doesn’t really matter as I’m neither Jewish or Palestinian) is that we shouldn’t use the phrase – there is absolutely no value in using such a phrase without the intent to cause upset and harm. There are plenty of other phrases (ie the entire english language) that could be used that didn’t have direct, and harmful connotations.
Protest the Israeli Government, Protest their military/ forces / history and current actions – there are many many ways this can be done, without going down the footgun alley of phrases that are well known to be upsetting.
ZX52 on
For all the talk about this term, I hear very little about what it specifically means, and what people who say it want to happen. People point to the second intifada as evidence that it automatically means antisemitic terrorism, but ignore the first one, which was largely non-violent.
When I’ve asked people what they mean, they talk about BDS and actions similar to what was done to apartheid South Africa. They don’t talk about violent action. But all the mainstream discussions I’ve heard are so bereft of details, some come off as little more than “Ah, scary Arabic word.”
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Give it up mate. Saying you oppose the Israeli government and “globalise the intifada” are two completely different things.
Edit: this comment was originally in reply to someone saying that the government are arresting grannies rather than violent extremists. Sorry, not sure what happened there.
Good?
For years now useless middle class morons have emboldened genuinely racist, anti semitic people to intimidate communities so they can feel progressive and righteous.
Hiding behind “oh I didn’t mean the widely accepted terms and connotations when I said the phrase” with a sense of smugness and 2:1 at Durham in Philosophy energy like they’ve found some loophole because they’re ever so clever.
Like in Manchester, If you’re “protesting” Gaza the days after a terrorist attack on Jewish people calling to “Globalise the Intifada” it’s really fucking clear what the implication and intent is.
But they think they’re so special because most of them have never faced any consequences in their lives. I hope the violent PA lot get the book thrown at them. Fuck Poppy, Jonty and Mungos hunger strikes
I’m a massive advocate for free speech and hate the way things have gone in terms of policing speech.
However if you’re encouraging violence, regardless of how much you want to play dumb about it, you deserve punishment.
You know exactly what you mean and what you support when you say that phrase and we saw some of the sad effects of it in Australia mere days ago.
then just say it in plain English.. globalise the resistance. that’s much clearer and a lot harder to misrepresent
it’s still disgusting that a tragedy on the other side of the planet is being used to further curb free speech in the UK
2025 and we have sentiment in the UK from both sides of the argument like its building up to the crusades of the middle ages.
We have domestic human level issues that go beyond race, religion et al that i wish people would be out protesting or at least sitting down at a table and discussing solutions……
ah well give me the flack then, tell me i’m wrong.
yea I’m all for this tbh.
Several periods of violent unrest are named the first/second/third intifadas. Intifada on it’s own might just mean uprising, but given its historical context, you can’t blame people for now reading that saying as ‘globalise terrorism’. Free Palestine, but encouraging generalized, vague violence is never ok
Its a very polarized debate. On the one side, the proponents using it point to the uprisings that occurred in Palestine usually after some incident caused by Israeli forces or Israeli intervention. On the other side, Jewish people could very easily take the phrase to be confrontational and offensive – and to believe it as a call for violence (of which both previous uprisings had their fair share of).
My opinion (that doesn’t really matter as I’m neither Jewish or Palestinian) is that we shouldn’t use the phrase – there is absolutely no value in using such a phrase without the intent to cause upset and harm. There are plenty of other phrases (ie the entire english language) that could be used that didn’t have direct, and harmful connotations.
Protest the Israeli Government, Protest their military/ forces / history and current actions – there are many many ways this can be done, without going down the footgun alley of phrases that are well known to be upsetting.
For all the talk about this term, I hear very little about what it specifically means, and what people who say it want to happen. People point to the second intifada as evidence that it automatically means antisemitic terrorism, but ignore the first one, which was largely non-violent.
When I’ve asked people what they mean, they talk about BDS and actions similar to what was done to apartheid South Africa. They don’t talk about violent action. But all the mainstream discussions I’ve heard are so bereft of details, some come off as little more than “Ah, scary Arabic word.”