Trail hunting to be banned as part of new animal welfare strategy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o
Posted by Tartan_Samurai
Trail hunting to be banned as part of new animal welfare strategy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o
Posted by Tartan_Samurai
33 Comments
That would seem to me like a positive step forward for humanity, and animals too!
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> The British Hound Sports Association (BHSA) has previously said trail hunts are “vital” to rural communities as they not only bring in money into the rural economy, but also support mental and physical wellbeing.
Doing self-care by being a bloodthirsty psycho determined to inflict pain on cute animals. It’s for mental health.
I wish teenage girls were protected to this degree.
About time.
I get hunting with horses and dogs used to be necessary, but these days we’ve got guns for pest control. If you want to ride your horse or walk your dogs just do it, you don’t need to justify it by chasing some terrified animal to death.
Labour, and city people in general, have always hated the hunt, it represents a kind of rich country lifestyle that they have a committed class warfare against. Considering the tone in these threads (and the likely downvotes I’ll receive on this comment) I imagine most of Reddit are townies too.
There is an argument that bloodsports aren’t suitable for the modern age and should be banned. Ok, fine, you did that in 2005. (You don’t have any interest in banning grouse and pheasant shoots, which rich townies do, or sport fishing, though, so it still looked like picking the one you did for cultural reasons.)
Seems like those little robot dogs could be something they could hunt instead
Basing this on animal welfare is going to fuel the right isn’t it?
You can see the arguments now, banning the hunt (British tradition etc.), on animal welfare grounds but allowing un-stunned slaughter.
Should have done it as soon as they came in why the delay?
Seems like a good step forwards, as somebody who lives rurally I really don’t see why we can’t still have people on horses have a day out with drinking and organised route setting, just no hounds or guns so there’s no way to actually hunt. I just hope nothing happens to the dogs now they’re essentially ‘useless’ (they’re not like pets that can be rehomed after all).
As I said on another Sub
Trail hunters have brought it on themselves.
Aside from the high handed approach they always took to other countryside users, that so many trail hunts continued to use genuine foxscent for trails, meaning the hounds often ran after actual foxes, and “accidentally” allow their hounds to run onto private lands, and kill people’s pets meant this was inevitable. This all aside from any deliberate criminality.
Controlling the hound packs more proactively, and switching to a scent distinct from foxes (like, maybe lemonscenting as often suggested) would have saved them a lot of trouble. Surly malicious compliance often results in this sort of indiscriminate banning, regardless of the issue or target demographics.
This could have been avoided. Too late now though.
Speaking as a rural born & raised Brit:
In terms of shooting to eat/manage or sending a ferret or terrier down to get rabbits etc., this practise is already long prohibited in most places in the UK, even if only de facto. Because it’s rural commoner proles & poors who do it, plus the aforementioned don’t typically own swathes of their own land or have legal access to it (except working farm families, not all of whom are rich & titled) Easier to control us and deprive us.
It’s only ceremonial sport hunting for toffs that remains. So yes, ban the rich from it as well. It’s only fair. They shouldn’t get exclusive rights over the rest of us to land or to life or to anything.
About time too.
Anyone involved in this monstrous abuse is no better than a child killer or a nonce, it’s time we all started treating these scumbags with the contempt they deserve.
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It was part of Labour’s election pledge. The fact they’ve sat on it for so long is a disgrace. Trail hunting should have ended day 1.
Very happy to read this, although this archaic practice has been ‘illegal’ for decades, fox hunters always find a way to circumvent it and subvert the law, hopefully, this will change now
What is wrong with trail hunting? As far as I understand it’s using a laid scent rather than hunting a live fox, no?
Yea if you abuse the system constantly by using ‘trail hunts’ to hunt foxes, assault hunt sabs, hire thugs to threaten and attack hunt sabs and just generally act like entitled children who the law doesn’t apply to then you can hardly be surprised when people say enough is enough.
I don’t care about animals (I don’t check whether the meat I eat is factory-farmed or not) but I do hate posh English people and farmer types (they represent all that is evil and colonial and white supremacist about Britain), so this is a good move.
good. when hunting was banned they were given the chance to do trail hunts and act responsibly, they have abused this and illegally hunted instead.
So they have fucked around, time to have the consequences.
Hunts are not a normal part of rural life, most of the followers (the pathetic groupies that come and hang around hunts literally at the stirrups….) are from urban areas, tories and reformers who think being posh will somehow rub off on them by proximity. I should imagine the people on the horses regard them with pretty much the same contempt I do.
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Have they said exactly what they are banning yet?
If it’s just the scent itself I don’t understand how that stops dogs and people from killing foxes against the law. How is it enforceable?
Or are they banning horse riding in groups? Or horse riding with dogs? Or wearing red jackets and blowing a horn?
I’m keen to see what this will actually be a ban on.
It’s unfortunate for the ones that have steadfastly made effort to conduct the hunt within the law and not harm animals.
But from previous reports and plenty of investigations over the last 20 years by law enforcement and activists, there are so many involved with the hunt that flout the law, ignore restrictions and engage in barbaric killing of animals. The sport is still full of ruddy-faced odious farmers that throw young foxes to packs of baying hounds to tear to pieces and get the taste for blood. There are still so many toffee-nosed uppity entitled pricks that put blood-sport tradition above the country’s modern values, but would still be ignorant of their own hypocrisy when they frown upon hare coursing and bullfighting.
They have brought this upon themselves with flagrant breaching of our law. Now they’ll hang up their red jackets for good, or be forcefully brought to heel. Good riddance. Perhaps in another 20 years we’ll try again.
-The British Hound Sports Association (BHSA) has previously said trail hunts are “vital” to rural communities as they not only bring in money into the rural economy, but also support mental and physical wellbeing.
Oh yeah, I remember when there was a hunt in our local woods and they destroyed a 300m+ stretch of wooden path leading through the woods, which was left in a broken state for weeks, making access through the woods a fucking nightmare for everyone. That was until the council repaired it at taxpayers expense. Not sure how or where any money came into the community from their time poncing about in the woods, but it sure cost the community and the taxpayer enough.
As someone who lives in a very rural community fox hunting serves absolutely no economic benefit, if anything it’s the opposite. The hounds and the horses in large groups tear up the countryside and leave it in complete mess afterwards. Huge areas of biodiverse woodland look like they’ve been run through by a bulldozer.
I’ve only even had bad interactions with them too, usually drunk. abusing their hounds and quite honestly some of the most rude, repulsive and entitled people I’ve met.
Foxes in rural communities, especially farms and houses with their own chickens/ducks etc are a real annoyance because they’ll kill 100 chickens and only eat one. But the most efficient way of dealing with this problem is first preventative methods like dug in fences, and electric fencing. Then shooting the fox if necessary to manage population. But not chasing it with 50 people on horses with 100 dogs!
The sooner trail hunting is banned the better – it’s not just about the terrible cruelty, but the bullying of communities by hunt thugs, people frightened to walk around their own villages or complain about a hunt marauding through their gardens, chasing their pets. The hunts have been laughing their heads off since hunting was banned as they have been committing wildlife crime ever since and getting away with it. If you have any doubts about ‘trail hunts’ being criminal animal torturing organisations, watch this footage of a ‘trail hunt’ at work [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJaXS_uaM9E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJaXS_uaM9E)
So me Lord Snooty and his pals can still mount up, along with our retainers and their hounds and go on a prearranged route through the surrounding fields for a few hours ..no scent trail and no following anything. Dogs kept under control at all times..No Problem I hope. Really that’s all most people want ..a good cross country ride and a bit of spectacle for spectators !! We could even make it a treasure hunt with cryptic clues to add a competitive element!! I expect the usual suspects will still object as a few rich people ( plus a lot of others who enjoy country pursuits) are enjoying themselves!!
Good. Met a grim woman who openly said they go trail hunting but always happen upon a fox. It was a proxy and everyone knew.
Good. In my area it seems fairly standard that trail hunting goes off piste and the hunt ‘accidently’ kill a fox who happens to wonder onto the trail. Cunts.
City people wanting to control how country people live again. How would they like it if country people made then stop stabbing each other
Another win for labour. A few ball drops, but a few extra wins
Finally, hopefully bringing an end to this “sport”, it’s sick and twisted. Let’s just hope this ban is enforced because these scumbags always find a way to worm around it.
“The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable” – Oscar Wilde.