Casualties reduce on roads since 20mph introduction
Posted by ntzm_
Casualties reduce on roads since 20mph introduction
Posted by ntzm_
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Going slower means less accidents? Wow who’d have guessed
Roads are quieter, safer and there’s barely any adverse impacts to journey times. Been a good change.
I think it’s missing the bit where no one sticks to 20 in 20mph areas.
I like them in the day, but at night, it has made driving more treacherous because there is a stream of cunts angrily overtaking me for driving at 20
The problem with the change is that it’s extremely difficult to measure the cost. The benefit is not in question. The reality is a loss in productivity, but we’ll never hear anything about that.
Protecting human life is a trade off, we take risks every day. 30mph to 20mph is a small change, but would you support 10 if it cleared the rest of the road traffic accidents?
‘Policy experts said would work works. Members of the associated University of Social Media utterly stunned.’
Yes, the headline is correct, but not entirely. In the last decade, accidents have decreased annually. This decline is currently following a pattern. Too soon to tell if it’s had an impact. It may take a year of data to detect any difference. These numbers favour neither side at this point.
1.6% reduction is statistically negligible and correlation is not causation. Cost of living crisis reducing mileage is just as likely to have been the cause etc.
You also need to balance out the economic loss to the country through reduced productivity.
If you ban all cars you will have no road traffic accidents.
’20mph? That’s ridiculous! Sure, it’ll save a few lives, but millions will be late!’
The report referenced is [here](https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/pdf-versions/2024/6/4/1717662647/police-recorded-road-collisions-2023.pdf). For the curious, page 4 features a 30-year chart of reported road collisions
Those monsters! Big Speed Limit has gone too far. They’re just interested in greedy profit making from the… signs… and… All the things that the elites want.
I for one won’t stand for it! I demand to be able to get to my destination in like… 15 less minutes. Those dead so called ‘people’ are crisis actors.
But how many drivers were driving at 20? I’d reckon most were along 23-25.
Here in Cardiff, the two things I here people complain about the most is the introduction of the default 20mph speed limit and the change away from mixed recycling. Turns out on road casualties are down and the recycling efficacy has increased.
It’s almost as if these policies have been thought through and that policy makers have already taken into account your surface level arguments!
As others have pointed out, this doesn’t really mean much over such a short period of time. The decrease is statistically negligible. We’ll need to monitor a far longer period of time before we can categorically say it’s because of the 20 zones.
However, if it is the case then I must say I’m pleasantly surprised as since 20 came in I’ve been tailgated and overtaken far more than I ever was at 30 so I’m skeptical about it being safer from my own experience, but pleased if it’s true.
Do we also yet know if it’s improved pollution levels which is the other area WG said it would benefit? As if it hasn’t that will end up killing far more people in the long run.
Looking like the strawman argument has changed from individuals’ beliefs on their capabilities and road design to productivity.
Cherry picked stats like ‘1.6% since 2022’ will be used, but in terms of productivity.
Yet people sailing on this boat would rather change the sail, and sink, then engage in the discussion of lives saved.
Yes, that’s how it works. Ban motor vehicles and you’d see a larger decrease in road deaths. Every government/relevant authority decision is a balance of risk and reward. Everything we’re allowed to do has risks. Doesn’t mean we should stop doing everything.