NHS trust ‘violated dignity’ of nurses by allowing trans woman to use female changing room, tribunal rules
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62nwl7j44gt
Posted by HPB
NHS trust ‘violated dignity’ of nurses by allowing trans woman to use female changing room, tribunal rules
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62nwl7j44gt
Posted by HPB
11 Comments
That’s not even what the judgement says.
The sticking point was the NHS not providing the nurses with alternative accommodations, not the fact that they let a trans member of staff use the changing room.
The BBC is doing what the BBC does, yet again.
A live update news feed about breaking toilet rulings? How fucked up has this country become? As well as their inability to use the term trans woman without explaining it every single time, shameful stuff.
It’s dangerous rhetoric to say that our *presence*, our mere existence, is “hostile, humiliating and degrading”. You know, on top of just being hideously transphobic.
This headline is below the standards I expect from the BBC, it wasn’t allowing them to use one changing room it was not providing an alternative for people who were bothered (single cubical etc), which isn’t the same thing.
The absolutely crazy thing about this is that Trans Women have been using Female Changing rooms forever without any issues.
For those against just think about that for a moment, this isn’t anything new, I’ve known several Transwomen who were happily using female changing rooms over 20 years ago and nobody gave a flyimg fuck, not even a second thought so I ask you, why is it suddenly a massive issue?
What has happened that you suddenly think it is such an important topic?
It seems worth bringing specific attention to the fact that all charges claimed against Rose, the transgender woman at the centre of the accusations of harassment, were deemed unfounded and dismissed. The trans person was found to have done absolutely nothing wrong, and yet still the transphobes have managed to claim victory by a judgement essentially stating that a trans person merely existing in a space violates the dignity of others in the space. This country is really fucked up.
So the solution is simply to just create a 3rd space… Who would have thought this basic thing would be the solution.
I like how they appended right at the end of the various lives stories that the colleagues had no issue against Rose using the bathroom she was told to use by her bosses. Yeah, no issue for 4 years, then bam. Complaints. But not to her face. To their bosses. What a shit-show.
* Person A works in a hospital trust.
* Person A is allowed to use the bathroom facilities of their workplace as per the workplace guidance.
* Colleagues B are fine with this situation for over 4 years with zero complaints or issues.
* Colleagues B gang up and then suddenly have an issue and make complaints.
* Colleagues B have no issues with Person A being **told** they could use the facilities. They have an issue with them **physically using** the facilities. After 4 years.
So you can be trans, use a changing room for 4 years, then have your life ruined because some of your colleagues suddenly have a problem with you. The trans woman in this case did nothing wrong but is still demonised and slandered. It’s absolutely horrific.
A reminder that the people doing this aren’t trying to protect women, they are just trying to get rid of trans people. That’s the goal, and then they’ll go after gay women, then women etc etc.
We specifically exclude what you would describe as cis men from certain spaces. Is that bigotry and discrimination?
Or is it entirely reasonable to exclude some people from some spaces (keeping in mind that they have a perfectly suitable alternative equivalent for them).
My ward has 2 changing rooms the size of disabled toilet cubicles for the ~20 staff. Not separated by gender, just go in and change. If you don’t want to strip in front of colleagues, there are staff toilets to change in