People who need work the most, able to get to work easily, and earn and pay taxes earlier in their careers? More people using cleaner transport? More people out and about in the high streets and shopping centres? Non-starter. Communist.
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So he mentions that the scheme would be self-financing arguing the increased bus usage would boost the economy… why not making bus use free for all ages then with that logic?
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ezrerno on
This policy really helped me at uni in Scotland so I do like it. However “self-financing” the policy is make believe…
Time007time007 on
This party is unelectable. This sounds like the ‘free broadband for everyone’ garbage that Corbyn was spewing before he got demolished.
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reginalduk on
So old people get free bus travel. Young people get free bus travel. Who’s left?
Haggis-in-wonderland on
Kids in Scotland get free travel if they apply for a Young Scot card, most secondry schools enroll them, but if you miss it the council office will do it. It is a great scheme. My daughter does a 50mile round trip to college on it.
Accomplished_Pen5061 on
Just make it funded through taxation for everyone.
You could get rid of all the charging infrastructure and it would encourage people to take the bus much more.
More bus usage gives more justification for more buses which improves regularity which makes taking the bus a more reliable option.
That in turn benefits everyone, especially those who drive who will have to deal with less road congestion because other people are sat on the bus instead.
But the money can’t come from nowhere. You’ll have to increase taxes.
Sorry-Programmer9826 on
There is a free bus in Manchester City centre and it was amazing how much smoother it ran; people just got on quickly and then the bus pulled away. No long selling tickets phase.
I’d look seriously at making them free for everyone
BiggestNizzy on
It is free in Scotland.
Worth doing but learn the lessons. You need to be able to revoke the free bus travel, I live in Kilmarnock and it has resulted in kids from the various schemes coming into the town centre and causing trouble. The Scottish government is currently looking to change it so they can remove it if you are causing anti social behavior.
Chill_Panda on
Another small win for green…
Now they just need to change their stance on nuclear, military, and airspace because right now they are all more essential.
wolfiasty on
Dude, why so low ?
£1 million from treasury for everyone.
Go big – after all you’re not spending your own, but taxpayers money. UK needs more social spending and bigger taxes, especially taxes coming from businesses of all sorts, those smallest ones mostly.
Lunarfrog2 on
I guess just fuck everyone else then? Buses especially should be free for everyone, we pay enough tax to justify it…
The greens really just strike me a populist party, obviously without the racism and sexism of reform, but both are populist
Vaxtez on
I’d be in favour of something akin to the £1-3 bus fare scheme in Wales for <22s. Have a bus pass that people can apply for, which will enable them to get those fares.
zenz3ro on
Nah, free for all under 60s, make the pensioners pay.
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luckystar2591 on
It would also help reduce child poverty because parents of teens would always have a way of getting their kids into school if money was tight.
It could also massively help rush hour, as if bus travel was free for kids parents would be more likely to send them by bus then driving them.
SEND education provision goes up to 24 and not all of those are eligible for a disabled bus pass (and the scheme can only be used after 9.30am anyway) For example, anyone with ADHD doesn’t get one. It’s really hard to get approved for one if you attended a main stream school.
So this could really help people with disabilities becoming independent because it goes to 22.
I think there are lots of benefits to this policy
Familiar-Woodpecker5 on
Why not take on the scheme being run by Wales? £1 single bus fares and £3 day tickets for young people (16-21). So far it’s been very successful.
WanderlustZero on
Make it bus passes for everyone under 22 *if they use headphones and I’m in
SillyMidOff49 on
Imagine giving *young* people some subsidies for once instead of pensioners regardless of their income.
The horror.
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narbgarbler on
Buses are almost useless at the moment. There needs to be more routes and more regular buses on the routes. As it stands, it doesn’t even make sense to take a bus rather than walk, it’ll barely save you any time. The price is just absurd- it can be a flat rate of around £2.50 to £3, no matter how short the distance.
The buses should be free. It’s just not worth doing fifteen to twenty minutes work to shave ten minutes off your walk.
QforQwertyest on
If you are going to propose this, why not just base it off of income rather than age? Are people 23+ trying to survive on a low income not deserving of a free bus pass as well?
hitanthrope on
Outside of major cities this might as well just been a free bus service. It’s only kids who don’t have a license and old people with passes who are on them.
JoelMahon on
unironically think buses should be free to everyone, get the chicken and egg solved ffs.
yes it’ll cost money yes we’ll need more buses, but it’ll reduce traffic, reduce emissions, reduce road deaths, reduce burnout, increase walking, probably increase socialisation (I know meeting a new friend isn’t a daily occurrence but once every 100 times of taking the bus isn’t impossible, especially if you’re taking the same route with certain people every day)
and I’m a 30yo paying super tax within walking distance of my town centre, I personally would benefit little from this and mostly just see increased taxes, idc
MK2809 on
I love how some people aren’t happy to pay more in taxes to support the next and future generations with policies like this, but they are happy to vote for reform which will just benefit the richest…
AdAggressive9224 on
It’s a good idea, with many of these sorts of things, yes there’s an upfront cost, but, there’s also an opportunity cost associated with *not* doing them.
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People who need work the most, able to get to work easily, and earn and pay taxes earlier in their careers? More people using cleaner transport? More people out and about in the high streets and shopping centres? Non-starter. Communist.
So he mentions that the scheme would be self-financing arguing the increased bus usage would boost the economy… why not making bus use free for all ages then with that logic?
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This policy really helped me at uni in Scotland so I do like it. However “self-financing” the policy is make believe…
This party is unelectable. This sounds like the ‘free broadband for everyone’ garbage that Corbyn was spewing before he got demolished.
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So old people get free bus travel. Young people get free bus travel. Who’s left?
Kids in Scotland get free travel if they apply for a Young Scot card, most secondry schools enroll them, but if you miss it the council office will do it. It is a great scheme. My daughter does a 50mile round trip to college on it.
Just make it funded through taxation for everyone.
You could get rid of all the charging infrastructure and it would encourage people to take the bus much more.
More bus usage gives more justification for more buses which improves regularity which makes taking the bus a more reliable option.
That in turn benefits everyone, especially those who drive who will have to deal with less road congestion because other people are sat on the bus instead.
But the money can’t come from nowhere. You’ll have to increase taxes.
There is a free bus in Manchester City centre and it was amazing how much smoother it ran; people just got on quickly and then the bus pulled away. No long selling tickets phase.
I’d look seriously at making them free for everyone
It is free in Scotland.
Worth doing but learn the lessons. You need to be able to revoke the free bus travel, I live in Kilmarnock and it has resulted in kids from the various schemes coming into the town centre and causing trouble. The Scottish government is currently looking to change it so they can remove it if you are causing anti social behavior.
Another small win for green…
Now they just need to change their stance on nuclear, military, and airspace because right now they are all more essential.
Dude, why so low ?
£1 million from treasury for everyone.
Go big – after all you’re not spending your own, but taxpayers money. UK needs more social spending and bigger taxes, especially taxes coming from businesses of all sorts, those smallest ones mostly.
I guess just fuck everyone else then? Buses especially should be free for everyone, we pay enough tax to justify it…
The greens really just strike me a populist party, obviously without the racism and sexism of reform, but both are populist
I’d be in favour of something akin to the £1-3 bus fare scheme in Wales for <22s. Have a bus pass that people can apply for, which will enable them to get those fares.
Nah, free for all under 60s, make the pensioners pay.
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It would also help reduce child poverty because parents of teens would always have a way of getting their kids into school if money was tight.
It could also massively help rush hour, as if bus travel was free for kids parents would be more likely to send them by bus then driving them.
SEND education provision goes up to 24 and not all of those are eligible for a disabled bus pass (and the scheme can only be used after 9.30am anyway) For example, anyone with ADHD doesn’t get one. It’s really hard to get approved for one if you attended a main stream school.
So this could really help people with disabilities becoming independent because it goes to 22.
I think there are lots of benefits to this policy
Why not take on the scheme being run by Wales? £1 single bus fares and £3 day tickets for young people (16-21). So far it’s been very successful.
Make it bus passes for everyone under 22 *if they use headphones and I’m in
Imagine giving *young* people some subsidies for once instead of pensioners regardless of their income.
The horror.
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Buses are almost useless at the moment. There needs to be more routes and more regular buses on the routes. As it stands, it doesn’t even make sense to take a bus rather than walk, it’ll barely save you any time. The price is just absurd- it can be a flat rate of around £2.50 to £3, no matter how short the distance.
The buses should be free. It’s just not worth doing fifteen to twenty minutes work to shave ten minutes off your walk.
If you are going to propose this, why not just base it off of income rather than age? Are people 23+ trying to survive on a low income not deserving of a free bus pass as well?
Outside of major cities this might as well just been a free bus service. It’s only kids who don’t have a license and old people with passes who are on them.
unironically think buses should be free to everyone, get the chicken and egg solved ffs.
yes it’ll cost money yes we’ll need more buses, but it’ll reduce traffic, reduce emissions, reduce road deaths, reduce burnout, increase walking, probably increase socialisation (I know meeting a new friend isn’t a daily occurrence but once every 100 times of taking the bus isn’t impossible, especially if you’re taking the same route with certain people every day)
and I’m a 30yo paying super tax within walking distance of my town centre, I personally would benefit little from this and mostly just see increased taxes, idc
I love how some people aren’t happy to pay more in taxes to support the next and future generations with policies like this, but they are happy to vote for reform which will just benefit the richest…
It’s a good idea, with many of these sorts of things, yes there’s an upfront cost, but, there’s also an opportunity cost associated with *not* doing them.