Yeah, we don’t want to end up like America with paid elections..
AdLeast6180 on
Who would have thought ????!!!
NLwino on
Are you saying that putting a lot of influence into the hands a select few is bad for an political system that aims to get everyone equally represented? Nah that sounds stupid to me /s
JeveGreen on
You don’t fucking say…?
Stoic_cave on
Obscene wealth is pathologically narcissistic
asertym on
Threat? Brother, we’re long past threats, them mfs control all aspects of our lives it’s not even a conspiracy anymore lmao
Quick_Willow_6306 on
I don’t even think this is about hating rich people, it’s about power concentration. No one should have enough money to casually shape policy for millions of people. That’s not success, that’s a broken system. But sure, let’s argue about culture war stuff instead.
-------7654321 on
i hope after trump we will see a large socialist movement in USA. i hope 🤞
zertz7 on
It is when they can do whatever they want without being punished.
butwhywedothis on
Country needs government to run.
Government consists of politicians.
Politicians are funded by Corporations.
Corporations are owned by Billionaires.
Billionaires own the government.
Governments bring country down.
Repeat for next few millennia.
Earth is round so we just keep repeating the same shit every few decades with new main characters.
IssuePsychological78 on
The problem is that these rich people will accuse us of being communists, claiming we oppose private property or do not reward hard work. That is not true. In fact, extreme concentration of money, wealth, and power in the hands of a few occurs both in unchecked capitalism, such as the system the United States promotes, and in historical communist systems like the Soviet Union, which we know did not succeed.
I believe private property should exist, and hard work should be rewarded. However, once an individual accumulates hundreds of millions or billions of euros or dollars, a limit should be imposed. At that point, one person controls resources that should belong to millions of people. This gives them disproportionate power and control over society, which is fundamentally incompatible with a democratic system.
garg4ntua on
Pickachuface.jpg
FlygandeSjuk on
Water is wet
4n0m4l7 on
Let me tell you a secret Oxfam, they are a thread to the very survival of the planet and everything on it… a cancer is what they are…
Hetzendorfer on
Class war.Class war never changes.
nim_opet on
Did anyone ever doubt this?
LuHamster on
Like fucking duh are we all collectively ducking stupid and forgot our own history!?
battleduck84 on
Oh cool,glad to see they’ve finally found out what the working class have been saying FOR THE LAST CENTURY
TheLightDances on
It is perfectly okay for a society to have some level of wealth inequality. This makes it so that people have incentives to be more productive. To put effort into their work, take risks, try to figure out new technology and ideas, provide for their children through inheritance, and do other things to improve their wealth.
But as with most things, there are limits. We don’t need that much wealth inequality for there to be enough incentive. Does anyone think that someone would think “I was going to invent this revolutionary new thing but now that I can only gain 500 million euros from it instead of 1000 million euros, I don’t feel motivated to do so”?
There is plenty of room for reasonable, rational approaches to building a better society between the extremes of authoritarian communism and neo-feudal turbo-capitalism. Let’s use it. For now, most societies seem to be speedrunning towards the turbo-capitalist extreme, while much of the left seems obsessed with doing nothing, or obessing over irrelevant culture war issues, or insisting on supporting authoritarian communism (and weird tankie takes like defending Russia despite them being a far-right capitalist hellscape.)
cloud_t on
Translation:
Oxfam, an institution that prides itself on feeding the poor and helpless, figures out the solution is to eat the rich.
SaltyAd8309 on
To speak of a “threat” when everyone knows that having that much money allows you to undermine any democracy…
No wealthy individual or group of wealthy and influential people should be able to pose a threat to a state meant to represent an entire nation.
Nagash24 on
Oxfam finds something that average people have known for centuries, wow.
/s
Curious_Ad_8195 on
Yes – democracy – not plutocracy
bonnydoe on
The enablers in politics are the real threat.
AkagamiBarto on
Oh no.. something “extremist leftists” have been saying for decades…
Now people that do not have cognitive dissonance will turn to the ones saying this to choose their next representatives.. right?
Oh wait.
On a sidenote, as EG we would love to impose, within our New Economic Model, an income cap (other than a basic income), such cap could, for example, amount to 1Million/year, but that’s just throwing numbers around.
Suzume_Chikahisa on
Capital knows no borders or loyalty.
MeFasterThanU on
We should strive to have more rich people, but less super-oligarch-rich
comeoutye on
We could have told that to Oxfam. I’m not sure why the research was necessary.
Rasselasx42 on
That is a (many)thousand year old story
uzu_afk on
Well I’ll be darned! … who woulda thunk!?
ralphswanson on
Exhibit A: Trump’s second term.
Elegant_Spring2223 on
Za njihov nastanak su krivi političari i državna uređenja koja to dozvoljavaju a u slučaju rata pokazalo se da oni prvi bježe iz zemlje sa bogatstvom a ostaje i brani ju sirotinja.
ShaLurqer on
Just look at what Elon’s been able to do because of his vast amount of wealth
Cipreh on
No money in politics. That will fix the problem.
Just ban ALL political donations, contributions, PACs, and all the other channels these people and companies are using to buy their way into our political landscape.
Comprehensive_Value on
More than gullible masses?
tommyballz63 on
I don’t know who this Ofam character is, but man, he sure is a genius. I never would have guessed it myself. Hell, I always believed that the rich were trying to do whatever they could to even it for us poors. I guess I gotta pay more attention.
Teddy-Bear-55 on
*”Inequality is a global problem that was in focus at the* [*last G20 summit*](https://euobserver.com/*/ar23b67185) *in November. An expert group presented their idea of forming an international panel to tackle inequality because it presents a threat to democracies.”*
And this is how we get rid of a problem…
Dunge on
Why does articles like that state the obvious that already happened long ago as some speculative future?
WetFishStink on
Yeah because they bought it and now they’re removing it.
Blue_Pacman on
Oxfam is a threat to democracy. Oxfam effectively preaches socialism and socialism destroys democracy. It turns everyone into clients of the state instead of individuals who have agency. The result is that the only way citizens can improve their situation is to get more from the government instead of taking action themselves. As entrepreneurs disappear the economy grinds to a halt and scarcity drives people towards extremism. Extremism kills democracy. Socialism doesn’t work. It always ends up with hunger, poverty and oppression. There isn’t a single success story.
pappapora on
Oxfam CEO making 10’s of millions per year. As the ancient Australians say “get fucked mate.”
pato1908 on
Jealousy based politics
OLDandBOLDfr on
When the wealth of a single individual is greater than that of nations then it is time for universal wealth regulation to limit the concentration of influence that inevitably follows on the heels of greed. When is enough enough?
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Yeah, we don’t want to end up like America with paid elections..
Who would have thought ????!!!
Are you saying that putting a lot of influence into the hands a select few is bad for an political system that aims to get everyone equally represented? Nah that sounds stupid to me /s
You don’t fucking say…?
Obscene wealth is pathologically narcissistic
Threat? Brother, we’re long past threats, them mfs control all aspects of our lives it’s not even a conspiracy anymore lmao
I don’t even think this is about hating rich people, it’s about power concentration. No one should have enough money to casually shape policy for millions of people. That’s not success, that’s a broken system. But sure, let’s argue about culture war stuff instead.
i hope after trump we will see a large socialist movement in USA. i hope 🤞
It is when they can do whatever they want without being punished.
Country needs government to run.
Government consists of politicians.
Politicians are funded by Corporations.
Corporations are owned by Billionaires.
Billionaires own the government.
Governments bring country down.
Repeat for next few millennia.
Earth is round so we just keep repeating the same shit every few decades with new main characters.
The problem is that these rich people will accuse us of being communists, claiming we oppose private property or do not reward hard work. That is not true. In fact, extreme concentration of money, wealth, and power in the hands of a few occurs both in unchecked capitalism, such as the system the United States promotes, and in historical communist systems like the Soviet Union, which we know did not succeed.
I believe private property should exist, and hard work should be rewarded. However, once an individual accumulates hundreds of millions or billions of euros or dollars, a limit should be imposed. At that point, one person controls resources that should belong to millions of people. This gives them disproportionate power and control over society, which is fundamentally incompatible with a democratic system.
Pickachuface.jpg
Water is wet
Let me tell you a secret Oxfam, they are a thread to the very survival of the planet and everything on it… a cancer is what they are…
Class war.Class war never changes.
Did anyone ever doubt this?
Like fucking duh are we all collectively ducking stupid and forgot our own history!?
Oh cool,glad to see they’ve finally found out what the working class have been saying FOR THE LAST CENTURY
It is perfectly okay for a society to have some level of wealth inequality. This makes it so that people have incentives to be more productive. To put effort into their work, take risks, try to figure out new technology and ideas, provide for their children through inheritance, and do other things to improve their wealth.
But as with most things, there are limits. We don’t need that much wealth inequality for there to be enough incentive. Does anyone think that someone would think “I was going to invent this revolutionary new thing but now that I can only gain 500 million euros from it instead of 1000 million euros, I don’t feel motivated to do so”?
There is plenty of room for reasonable, rational approaches to building a better society between the extremes of authoritarian communism and neo-feudal turbo-capitalism. Let’s use it. For now, most societies seem to be speedrunning towards the turbo-capitalist extreme, while much of the left seems obsessed with doing nothing, or obessing over irrelevant culture war issues, or insisting on supporting authoritarian communism (and weird tankie takes like defending Russia despite them being a far-right capitalist hellscape.)
Translation:
Oxfam, an institution that prides itself on feeding the poor and helpless, figures out the solution is to eat the rich.
To speak of a “threat” when everyone knows that having that much money allows you to undermine any democracy…
No wealthy individual or group of wealthy and influential people should be able to pose a threat to a state meant to represent an entire nation.
Oxfam finds something that average people have known for centuries, wow.
/s
Yes – democracy – not plutocracy
The enablers in politics are the real threat.
Oh no.. something “extremist leftists” have been saying for decades…
Now people that do not have cognitive dissonance will turn to the ones saying this to choose their next representatives.. right?
Oh wait.
On a sidenote, as EG we would love to impose, within our New Economic Model, an income cap (other than a basic income), such cap could, for example, amount to 1Million/year, but that’s just throwing numbers around.
Capital knows no borders or loyalty.
We should strive to have more rich people, but less super-oligarch-rich
We could have told that to Oxfam. I’m not sure why the research was necessary.
That is a (many)thousand year old story
Well I’ll be darned! … who woulda thunk!?
Exhibit A: Trump’s second term.
Za njihov nastanak su krivi političari i državna uređenja koja to dozvoljavaju a u slučaju rata pokazalo se da oni prvi bježe iz zemlje sa bogatstvom a ostaje i brani ju sirotinja.
Just look at what Elon’s been able to do because of his vast amount of wealth
No money in politics. That will fix the problem.
Just ban ALL political donations, contributions, PACs, and all the other channels these people and companies are using to buy their way into our political landscape.
More than gullible masses?
I don’t know who this Ofam character is, but man, he sure is a genius. I never would have guessed it myself. Hell, I always believed that the rich were trying to do whatever they could to even it for us poors. I guess I gotta pay more attention.
*”Inequality is a global problem that was in focus at the* [*last G20 summit*](https://euobserver.com/*/ar23b67185) *in November. An expert group presented their idea of forming an international panel to tackle inequality because it presents a threat to democracies.”*
And this is how we get rid of a problem…
Why does articles like that state the obvious that already happened long ago as some speculative future?
Yeah because they bought it and now they’re removing it.
Oxfam is a threat to democracy. Oxfam effectively preaches socialism and socialism destroys democracy. It turns everyone into clients of the state instead of individuals who have agency. The result is that the only way citizens can improve their situation is to get more from the government instead of taking action themselves. As entrepreneurs disappear the economy grinds to a halt and scarcity drives people towards extremism. Extremism kills democracy. Socialism doesn’t work. It always ends up with hunger, poverty and oppression. There isn’t a single success story.
Oxfam CEO making 10’s of millions per year. As the ancient Australians say “get fucked mate.”
Jealousy based politics
When the wealth of a single individual is greater than that of nations then it is time for universal wealth regulation to limit the concentration of influence that inevitably follows on the heels of greed. When is enough enough?