If you look at smoking rates right now, Switzerland isn’t that much worse than neighbouring countries. But if you look at young people, then Switzerland is trailing behind.
I’m half swiss, half from New Zealand, and difference is crazy! In NZ it’s down to 3.2% for young people. I’m not going to pretend that I know exactly how this happened, but one clear reason is that the government has made smoking incredibly expensive. A packet of cigarettes in New Zealand costs about twice what it costs in Switzerland.
Clearly, the government here is doing something wrong. We knew that smoking causes cancer in the 1960s. Now it’s over 60 years later, and Switzerland (and I would say most of Europe) still hasn’t done much about it. But clearly some policies work, and by not implementing them, the government is ensuring that future generations will continue to die because of this.
https://i.redd.it/0soejojwnbfg1.jpeg
Posted by seriously_perplexed
36 Comments
eigeverantwortig und so!!++11+11++1111!!
Thanks Philip Morris… 😉
Well duh we smoke because we want cancer!
I don’t wanna live that long in that shitty world and I don’t want to actively kill myself so a decrease of lifespan is a pretty good deal.
imagine the health system not having to care about the late effects of smoking and all the lung transplants, COPD and other BS that people do to themselves and the industry hurting the people with
Naja 4 Jahr alti zahle
I would be in favor of higher insurance premiums rather than more expensive cigarettes.
Die Menschen, die auf eigenverantwortung appellieren, die sollen dann auch bitte den doppelten krankenkassenbeitrag bezahlen um ihre wörter und werte zu bestätigen.
I got 2 people off nicotine addiction, still sad to see other get anxious, angry after 30 minutes of withdrawl.
Also I work for a company that sells cigaretts and you can now order online
I’m sure the fact that we’re one of the most conservative, if not the most conservative, countries on this map has nothing to do with it because conservatives never kow-tow to corporate lobbyists, let’s not jump to conclusions here.
Having said that, though, I honestly have a couple of issues with this. It doesn’t tell me how much the people in question smoke – is it a pack a day or occasionally when they’re out with friends? The amount people smoke would tell us a lot more about the public health impact. I’d also like to know if this includes vaping or if it’s just cigarettes because if it doesn’t include vaping, these numbers tell us nothing.
And finally, in my experience, the larger problem particularly with the younger generation is actually nicotine pouches AKA Snus, which are very widespread at the moment and insanely addictive. I honestly get the impression nobody’s talking about them, and the kids have no idea what they’re doing to themselves with these fucking things.
Pillar 2 and Pillar 3a is not enough to live a longer life.
How everybody are ignoring people smoking on train stations and people smoking next to little kids was my biggest culture shock after moving here
The price for cigarettes has actually already been raised significantly. Just FYI.
Tax ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
mogging the French
Welcome to switzerlands tobacco lobby
# Zückt eure Glimmstängel, die Ungarn holen wir auch noch ein!
Actually wild how long our life expectancy is with all the smoking
As a non smoker, even I was tempted because Swiss cigarettes smells good
My observation is that public health initiatives are lacking in CH. Routine physical exams to catch serious disease early, nope, not covered, we’ll treat it later when it’s terminal. Public health campaigns to demonize smoking and reduce smoking rates, nope. Suggest the yearly flu vaccine for heard immunity, prevent lost man hours and unnecessary GP visits, nope. Complain about rising health insurance costs and being clueless about the causes … ding-ding-ding!
Yeah, it sucks. I can’t even waiting for the train or bus without inhaling that crap. Also terrible for the environment and people throwing their used cigarettes in the street. Just a disgusting habit that has got to go.
And a drinking problem…
We have outsmoked the French! Success!
the paying part goes for pretty much anything, no? i dont drive a car, i still pay for roads, i dont need any goverment assistance, i still pay for it. maybe we need to abolish universal healthcare then? i do sports regularly, should you pay more if you dont?
And they’re all on the train platforms, huffing away on what smells like either goat dung, weed or bubblegum
Data for whole population (normally 15+), regularly places Switzerland in middle of European table. Meanwhile life expectancy is regularly highest in Europe and top 5 globally.
I’m a non-smoker and cannot stand it, I particularly hate when someone blows a sugary vape cloud in my direction. However I’m also happy to live in a country that allows people to make their own choices.
I wonder if this could have to do with the apprenticeship system.
I just quit smoking on January first ! Been smoking for 15 years and never wanted to quit until now.
Easy to say but I can say HOW MANY people smoke in cities like Geneva.
A few young men smoke in the doorway of our office building very often although there is a kita on the ground floor. I complained to the landlord and wait for the news.
Don’t worry they will die away at some point…
Iceland?
Just got back from a long trip abroad and the first thing you notice coming out of Zurich airport is the stench of cigarette smoke. I didn’t miss it!
I grew up in Canada, when I was a kid restaurants would have smoking and non-smoking sections, but through the late 80’s and 90’s there were AGGRESSIVE government funded anti-smoking advertising campaigns which have hugely cut down on smoking rates. It took about 20 years, but the results are absolutely drastic, very few people smoke, especially younger people.
Unfortunately vaping culture has started to erode this progress, but it’s pretty clear that government needs to step in and do something about it here in Switzerland.
Alcohol causes liver damage, do we ban it or make it incredibly expensive as well?
I feel like saying this on Reddit automatically categorizes you as a bad person but : I actually like the smoking culture here and I think having the freedom to smoke wherever you want is cool. Alot of people smoked in my family growing up and as far as I can remember it never quite bothered me.
I’m not against higher taxes on tobacco products though as it’s an effective mesure against underage tabagism.
but maybe my sense of smell was erased long ago by nicotine idk
Life expectancy still high so what’s the issue?
Disgusting behaviour if you smoke in public spaces and then litter your cigarette buds on the sidewalk.
Other people have a right not to have to deal with second hand smoke from walking down the street or sitting outside especially children, elderly or those with king conditions.