First they cause the problem, then they blame us and send us to fix it.
medievalvelocipede on
Oh really now, care to name ONE?
Successful_Theme_595 on
Yeah but that’s one country. And the EU is multiple countries
shatureg on
Forget the comparisons at this point. We all know that Europe did much better and that the US is an unreliable and deeply dysfunctional state.
Let’s focus on the future. We can do much more in Ukraine. We need to do much more in Ukraine. We owe it to them. And it’ll be a signal to the world as well as to which western union will be the real superpower of the 21st century.
Consistent-Crazy6447 on
Pissant should be openly mocked at every opportunity.
heatrealist on
Delivered vs Allocated.
Grant vs Loan.
Abject-Job7825 on
This isn’t something to be proud of though, the fact that they invested so much aid for a country that isn’t even remotely in their sphere of influence, ukraine is almost a part of europe and still we rely on a country in another continent to help solve our problems for us.
noyart on
Don’t Europe pay the US for all the aid too? 😛
DeRpY_CUCUMBER on
The US bigger sacrifice is sanctions against Russia has hurt the dollars reserve status. While American is sanctioning countries like India, Europe is making the biggest every trade deals with the Indians.
The US has risked our entire financial system. Europeans won’t even take the Russian cash from their banks and give it to the Ukrainians. It’s “too risky”.
Adventurous_Hand3705 on
Bessent really is a tool
trollsmurf on
It’s like we should prove him wrong or something.
DueAd9005 on
The USA didn’t make a single sacrifice, most of that money went into their own MiC. They just gave Ukraine their old stuff and ordered new stuff from their own MiC.
And obviously that helped Ukraine, but it’s not a sacrifice for the US at all lol.
someone8192 on
I say it again: The US gave a security guarantee to Ukraine after they destroyed their nuclear arsenal. They willingly offered to protect them.
US security protections are worthless.
One_Ad_2758 on
Remember, measuring things for American is difficult. You have to put in terms they can understand, like “football fields” and “gallons” and “semi-truck length”… maybe if this was in “McD happy meals” it would make more sense to the treasury secretary
Tempires on
That doesn’t even include estimated cost of refugees which for Germany is 47,5B € as example
Sky_HUN on
Says the former hedge fund manager who managed to turn $5 billion into $500 million in a few years!
Really a financial genius!
VicenteOlisipo on
I agree with the point that Europe has, by now, become much more of a supporter to Ukraine than America.
That said, starting the counter on the day of the invasion is a bit unfair, because America had been helping Ukraine a lot before the invasion, when most European powers (namely Germany) thought that war either wouldn’t happen or that Russia would win easily.
Remember Trump’s first impeachment? That was over demanding Zelensky lie about Joe Biden in return for Trump not blocking support that Congress had already approved.
advator on
While they spend 3x more in Israël.
CandyCornToes on
Fucking hell. Moron.
EnergyOwn6800 on
For one, Ukraine is not our problem. It is EU’s problem considering they border each other. Unlike EU we are actually putting out military to use and taking out Russian allies in Venezuela and Iran on top of seizing their oil tankers which Zelensky adamantly supports
Secondly, most of what EU has given Ukraine are [loans](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o) and will have to be paid back. Most of what the U.S. gave Ukraine were grants and will not have to be paid back.
There should be a law that punishes the lying of people in charge of the country.. that is so stupid. It wasn’t much like that in the past. Just the bad times happening.
Difficult-Cricket541 on
I strongly support Ukraine. The Europeans should do more than the US since they are right next door. Not taking the $300 billion in frozen russian money is a total wimp move. Not giving more long range weapons and greenlights to hit inside of Russia is pathetic.
Both the US and EU let Ukraine down.
Emergency_Link7328 on
Everything Americans tell are lies.
They’re masters of propaganda, they always were.
MrDabb on
Compare it per capita US vs the EU
DABOSSROSS9 on
Ya… no defending this
Hellhooker on
At this point, just assume everything coming out of the USA is a straight lie.
Coupe368 on
Europe still needs to do a lot more to stop the genocide.
Remember, after Hitler took Czechoslovakia he force conscripted the men and used that army to invade Poland.
If you think Putler will stop with just Ukraine, you are a moron.
Zaxly on
I wouldnt trust Bessent with delivering my groceries.
leginfr on
Don’t forget that European countries having taken in millions of Ukrainian refugees. They’ve been fed, housed and given access to health care and education for nearly 4 years. That’s not peanuts.
Agreeable-Onion-5445 on
I can see him claiming that he has personally sacrificed more than Ukraine…
Foxman_Noir on
Bessent is a cunt.
Turbulent_Pin7635 on
Add to this amount the costs that Europe paid alone boycotting Russia.
Who won this war was the USA. Who lose the war was Europe.
BEERsandBURGERs on
Scott Bessent goes boldly ‘where no man has gone before’, except for Trump’s proctologists of course.
DirectionOverall9709 on
Its easy: every single thing said by a member of the Trumpist regime is a lie.
Standard_Flow_5082 on
The USAs sacrifice is giving 60 year old equipment
pugs_in_a_basket on
Are the US doing anything but selling munitions with a big markup? The effin’ french are securing us with their nukes and with their intelligence
Huh?
team_ti on
You don’t understand because you’re not American. If the US does it automatically counts for 5x more
Historical-Many9869 on
if you are buying american products and services you are anti european at this point
Fat_Pizza_Boy on
Technically USA does provide the most aid for Ukraine! Considering EU countries are multinational and only provide less than 30% more than a single country USA.
MommersHeart on
Financial pressure works. Stop buying American. Decouple technology. Divest of US treasuries.
LibrarianTraining874 on
Well it’s true
Brief-Alfalfa-3300 on
Not really related to anything political and not defending/attacking any side or point here but it sincerely kind of feels like people sincerely forget the US is 1 country and the EU is multiple countries. Why is it always spoken like the EU is like the US when its totally different?
ThinTilla on
It’s is just unfair to sell redundant cold war military stock for top dollar and count it as aid. They even use the current replacement cost for new equipment to publish these numbers .So the 3 million 155 mm houwitzer rounds are “worth” roughly $3,000–$5,000 per round.
Same logic applies for all military equipment.
You can do anything with numbers and politics. These aid “cost” is the contract value of unbuild new equipment. Some PAC-2 patriot systems where from the 1990s at roughly $2 million per missile.
FlaccidRazor on
Lies, you say? From this administration? How dare you, Sir! How…dare…you!
MeInSC40 on
So this chart shows that 1 country is providing almost as much support as an entire other continent?
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Source:
[Ukraine Support Tracker – Kiel Institute](https://www.kielinstitut.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/)
First they cause the problem, then they blame us and send us to fix it.
Oh really now, care to name ONE?
Yeah but that’s one country. And the EU is multiple countries
Forget the comparisons at this point. We all know that Europe did much better and that the US is an unreliable and deeply dysfunctional state.
Let’s focus on the future. We can do much more in Ukraine. We need to do much more in Ukraine. We owe it to them. And it’ll be a signal to the world as well as to which western union will be the real superpower of the 21st century.
Pissant should be openly mocked at every opportunity.
Delivered vs Allocated.
Grant vs Loan.
This isn’t something to be proud of though, the fact that they invested so much aid for a country that isn’t even remotely in their sphere of influence, ukraine is almost a part of europe and still we rely on a country in another continent to help solve our problems for us.
Don’t Europe pay the US for all the aid too? 😛
The US bigger sacrifice is sanctions against Russia has hurt the dollars reserve status. While American is sanctioning countries like India, Europe is making the biggest every trade deals with the Indians.
The US has risked our entire financial system. Europeans won’t even take the Russian cash from their banks and give it to the Ukrainians. It’s “too risky”.
Bessent really is a tool
It’s like we should prove him wrong or something.
The USA didn’t make a single sacrifice, most of that money went into their own MiC. They just gave Ukraine their old stuff and ordered new stuff from their own MiC.
And obviously that helped Ukraine, but it’s not a sacrifice for the US at all lol.
I say it again: The US gave a security guarantee to Ukraine after they destroyed their nuclear arsenal. They willingly offered to protect them.
US security protections are worthless.
Remember, measuring things for American is difficult. You have to put in terms they can understand, like “football fields” and “gallons” and “semi-truck length”… maybe if this was in “McD happy meals” it would make more sense to the treasury secretary
That doesn’t even include estimated cost of refugees which for Germany is 47,5B € as example
Says the former hedge fund manager who managed to turn $5 billion into $500 million in a few years!
Really a financial genius!
I agree with the point that Europe has, by now, become much more of a supporter to Ukraine than America.
That said, starting the counter on the day of the invasion is a bit unfair, because America had been helping Ukraine a lot before the invasion, when most European powers (namely Germany) thought that war either wouldn’t happen or that Russia would win easily.
Remember Trump’s first impeachment? That was over demanding Zelensky lie about Joe Biden in return for Trump not blocking support that Congress had already approved.
While they spend 3x more in Israël.
Fucking hell. Moron.
For one, Ukraine is not our problem. It is EU’s problem considering they border each other. Unlike EU we are actually putting out military to use and taking out Russian allies in Venezuela and Iran on top of seizing their oil tankers which Zelensky adamantly supports
Secondly, most of what EU has given Ukraine are [loans](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o) and will have to be paid back. Most of what the U.S. gave Ukraine were grants and will not have to be paid back.
Even the recently [approved ](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ce8np3pnljdt)aid to Ukraine is a loan.
There should be a law that punishes the lying of people in charge of the country.. that is so stupid. It wasn’t much like that in the past. Just the bad times happening.
I strongly support Ukraine. The Europeans should do more than the US since they are right next door. Not taking the $300 billion in frozen russian money is a total wimp move. Not giving more long range weapons and greenlights to hit inside of Russia is pathetic.
Both the US and EU let Ukraine down.
Everything Americans tell are lies.
They’re masters of propaganda, they always were.
Compare it per capita US vs the EU
Ya… no defending this
At this point, just assume everything coming out of the USA is a straight lie.
Europe still needs to do a lot more to stop the genocide.
Remember, after Hitler took Czechoslovakia he force conscripted the men and used that army to invade Poland.
If you think Putler will stop with just Ukraine, you are a moron.
I wouldnt trust Bessent with delivering my groceries.
Don’t forget that European countries having taken in millions of Ukrainian refugees. They’ve been fed, housed and given access to health care and education for nearly 4 years. That’s not peanuts.
I can see him claiming that he has personally sacrificed more than Ukraine…
Bessent is a cunt.
Add to this amount the costs that Europe paid alone boycotting Russia.
Who won this war was the USA. Who lose the war was Europe.
Scott Bessent goes boldly ‘where no man has gone before’, except for Trump’s proctologists of course.
Its easy: every single thing said by a member of the Trumpist regime is a lie.
The USAs sacrifice is giving 60 year old equipment
Are the US doing anything but selling munitions with a big markup? The effin’ french are securing us with their nukes and with their intelligence
Huh?
You don’t understand because you’re not American. If the US does it automatically counts for 5x more
if you are buying american products and services you are anti european at this point
Technically USA does provide the most aid for Ukraine! Considering EU countries are multinational and only provide less than 30% more than a single country USA.
Financial pressure works. Stop buying American. Decouple technology. Divest of US treasuries.
Well it’s true
Not really related to anything political and not defending/attacking any side or point here but it sincerely kind of feels like people sincerely forget the US is 1 country and the EU is multiple countries. Why is it always spoken like the EU is like the US when its totally different?
It’s is just unfair to sell redundant cold war military stock for top dollar and count it as aid. They even use the current replacement cost for new equipment to publish these numbers .So the 3 million 155 mm houwitzer rounds are “worth” roughly $3,000–$5,000 per round.
Same logic applies for all military equipment.
You can do anything with numbers and politics. These aid “cost” is the contract value of unbuild new equipment. Some PAC-2 patriot systems where from the 1990s at roughly $2 million per missile.
Lies, you say? From this administration? How dare you, Sir! How…dare…you!
So this chart shows that 1 country is providing almost as much support as an entire other continent?