๐ฉ๐ช๐ต๐ฑ๐ฑ๐น๐ฑ๐ป๐ช๐ช๐ซ๐ฎ Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland have begun talks on the construction of a hydrogen pipeline. ๐ซก
๐ฉ๐ช๐ต๐ฑ๐ฑ๐น๐ฑ๐ป๐ช๐ช๐ซ๐ฎ Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland have begun talks on the construction of a hydrogen pipeline. ๐ซก
Why transport hydrogen for so many kilometers when you can transport electricity with minimal losses and hydrolyze water where the hydrogen is actually needed?
WWWeirdGuy on
I can understand the justification for hydrogen since it’s a byproduct of some Industrial processes, but does a hydrogen pipeline of this size make economic sense?
P4ris3k on
Lithuanias gas transmission operator being called “Amber Grid” is absolute perfection.
northck on
Hydrogen is a technology with a dead end.
sebeteus on
Anchor has entered the chat.
c200sc on
Would a hydrogen pipeline need constant cooling?
deadlock_jones on
Wow, can we complete rail baltic before we start another Mega project?
hyakumanben on
A hydrogen pipeline through the Suwalki gap, what could possibly go wrong?
Moosplauze on
Put a hydrogen pipeline on the seafloor in front of a Russian harbor, what could possibly go wrong…
LeroyoJenkins on
Source?
ContractorCarrot on
Love the collaboration, but hydrogen ainโt it.
A metaphor thrown about a lot but that works well:
Hydrogen is the Swiss Army knife of energy solutions. It *can* do almost anything. You could make your dinner with a Swiss Army knife, you could light a fire, you could saw down a tree. But, is it the best tool for the job? Just because you can do something someway doesnโt mean you should
Filias9 on
Hydrogen is not future. If you can get it cheaply, OK. But it has very small molecules. Working with it is too complicated for scale.
cuacuacuac on
God… I thought we had already passed over the Hydrogen stupidity… here we go again to burn public money into a failed business…
Neon2266 on
If only there existed an underground pipeline through the baltic sea that was capable of transporting hydrogen…
Martinoqom on
Meanwhile hydrogen inside the Baltic Sea (bounded to oxygen): __Am I a joke to you?__
Obviously joking ๐
But have we any serious data about the need of this type of structure? Seems pretty wasteful.
From an Oil Engineering student standpoint it makes zero sense. We have technology to create hydrogen from methane (component of natural gas), so wouldn’t it be better, if we were transporting methane and then converse it to hydrogen when it is needed? Why bother with high pressures and insane amount of isolation when units like these are readily available to be built (even if quite costly)?..
Tyr1326 on
Incredibly stupid. Hydrogen is notorious for being hard to store and transport. Youd have fewer losses just using electricity.
cocoeen on
Just build hydrogen factories at the coast of the baltic sea, powered by solar and wind. no need for a pipeline.
Sporlingling on
Right through the suwalki gap. Maybe Kรถnigsberg should be deputinised before building the pipeline.
RobPez on
That’s a hella lot of digging, Daddy.
zimon85 on
The only hydrogen that makes sense to use is the “white” hydrogen in geological formations in France
leginfr on
Why?
pinewoodranger on
Toyota foaming at the mouth.
kakao_w_proszku on
Imagine they call it Nord Stream 3
No_Lie_8954 on
They better get someone to watch that pipe under water 24/7.
dustofdeath on
Which one of these produces green hydrogen?
Green H would only make sense inย equatorial regions with excess solar energy.
And who’s the customer? Hydrogen cars are dead. EV is growing.
Activehannes on
A literal scam
AcidSoulFire on
The Hinderberg Pipe!
caelestis42 on
There were news just the other week that Germany had spent billions on a hydrogen pipeline that no one wanted to use, and now this??
Trantorianus on
Will need an insurance against these ruSSki ships’ anchors… .
AsleepNinja on
This is so incredibly dumb
v3ritas1989 on
Why no decentralised production? Reduces the loss issue.
wordswillneverhurtme on
Here’s my prediction: 2026-2028 talks, 2028-2032 planning, 2032-2036 construction, delay stretches it out to 2040.
chrischi3 on
Do it.
kimare16 on
With the EUโs decision to fully phase out Russian gas by 2027, I really hope the **MIDCAT pipeline** (or an equivalent IberianโCentral Europe gas interconnection) is finally approved. Europeโs energy security canโt keep being held back by political hesitation, and hopefully Germany and France wonโt block it again. We need real strategic alternatives, not stop-gap solutions.
Bird5driB on
Its great look in the future, but pls, pls finish that railbaltica first before starting another massive project. Main line cost in Latvia already has grown 7 times since 2017.
Motor_Educator_2706 on
**Huge** fucking waste of money
kot-sie-stresuje on
From talks to ready pipline it can be decades. Especially when area needs to be vacated by people. And Urbanization now complicates things, not like 70 years ago
Thomppa7x on
Don’t tell the US about the plan
mj_outlaw on
russian ships with anchor on the seabed take notes
ExpressGovernment420 on
Just donโt give money to my government, please ๐. We have enough rich people driving fancy cars in Riga๐
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Why transport hydrogen for so many kilometers when you can transport electricity with minimal losses and hydrolyze water where the hydrogen is actually needed?
I can understand the justification for hydrogen since it’s a byproduct of some Industrial processes, but does a hydrogen pipeline of this size make economic sense?
Lithuanias gas transmission operator being called “Amber Grid” is absolute perfection.
Hydrogen is a technology with a dead end.
Anchor has entered the chat.
Would a hydrogen pipeline need constant cooling?
Wow, can we complete rail baltic before we start another Mega project?
A hydrogen pipeline through the Suwalki gap, what could possibly go wrong?
Put a hydrogen pipeline on the seafloor in front of a Russian harbor, what could possibly go wrong…
Source?
Love the collaboration, but hydrogen ainโt it.
A metaphor thrown about a lot but that works well:
Hydrogen is the Swiss Army knife of energy solutions. It *can* do almost anything. You could make your dinner with a Swiss Army knife, you could light a fire, you could saw down a tree. But, is it the best tool for the job? Just because you can do something someway doesnโt mean you should
Hydrogen is not future. If you can get it cheaply, OK. But it has very small molecules. Working with it is too complicated for scale.
God… I thought we had already passed over the Hydrogen stupidity… here we go again to burn public money into a failed business…
If only there existed an underground pipeline through the baltic sea that was capable of transporting hydrogen…
Meanwhile hydrogen inside the Baltic Sea (bounded to oxygen): __Am I a joke to you?__
Obviously joking ๐
But have we any serious data about the need of this type of structure? Seems pretty wasteful.
Yep, fresh hydrogen delivered in Germany straight from Finish nuclear SMR http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/tractebel-to-help-develop-steady-energys-heating-smr
(minus the leakage)
Not worse than enjoying French electricity you might say.
The hydrogen lobby (aka oil industry) is still trying hard to stay relevant. This makes zero sense from an engineering and therefore financial pov.
that’s all cool but we’re still waiting for [Beer Stream 1](https://preview.redd.it/56i3gs0y37s91.jpg?auto=webp&s=c3805318b0fe3eb59d34dbff8cec57e2948d9596) from Czechia
From an Oil Engineering student standpoint it makes zero sense. We have technology to create hydrogen from methane (component of natural gas), so wouldn’t it be better, if we were transporting methane and then converse it to hydrogen when it is needed? Why bother with high pressures and insane amount of isolation when units like these are readily available to be built (even if quite costly)?..
Incredibly stupid. Hydrogen is notorious for being hard to store and transport. Youd have fewer losses just using electricity.
Just build hydrogen factories at the coast of the baltic sea, powered by solar and wind. no need for a pipeline.
Right through the suwalki gap. Maybe Kรถnigsberg should be deputinised before building the pipeline.
That’s a hella lot of digging, Daddy.
The only hydrogen that makes sense to use is the “white” hydrogen in geological formations in France
Why?
Toyota foaming at the mouth.
Imagine they call it Nord Stream 3
They better get someone to watch that pipe under water 24/7.
Which one of these produces green hydrogen?
Green H would only make sense inย equatorial regions with excess solar energy.
And who’s the customer? Hydrogen cars are dead. EV is growing.
A literal scam
The Hinderberg Pipe!
There were news just the other week that Germany had spent billions on a hydrogen pipeline that no one wanted to use, and now this??
Will need an insurance against these ruSSki ships’ anchors… .
This is so incredibly dumb
Why no decentralised production? Reduces the loss issue.
Here’s my prediction: 2026-2028 talks, 2028-2032 planning, 2032-2036 construction, delay stretches it out to 2040.
Do it.
With the EUโs decision to fully phase out Russian gas by 2027, I really hope the **MIDCAT pipeline** (or an equivalent IberianโCentral Europe gas interconnection) is finally approved. Europeโs energy security canโt keep being held back by political hesitation, and hopefully Germany and France wonโt block it again. We need real strategic alternatives, not stop-gap solutions.
Its great look in the future, but pls, pls finish that railbaltica first before starting another massive project. Main line cost in Latvia already has grown 7 times since 2017.
**Huge** fucking waste of money
From talks to ready pipline it can be decades. Especially when area needs to be vacated by people. And Urbanization now complicates things, not like 70 years ago
Don’t tell the US about the plan
russian ships with anchor on the seabed take notes
Just donโt give money to my government, please ๐. We have enough rich people driving fancy cars in Riga๐