For the Liberals to even think about moving towards the centre, forming a credible opposition and eventually government, they need to get away from the national party.
Having a junior coalition partner calling the shots is simply untenable.
Money_Armadillo4138 on
Would increase my respect for Ley if she can stick to this.
WontThinkStraight on
Next, they should sit in the corner facing the wall while in parliament, so they can think about what they’ve done.
HikerSaint on
Either two things will happen before the next election
1. They rejoin the coalition
2. Susssan wont be leader anymore
Simply because she holds a rural seat which will be at risk if the Nats run a candidate there
Kallasilya on
Honestly they sound like misbehaving children in a classroom, lol.
itsdankreddit on
They’ll pull themselves apart and then sow it all back together just before the election. They will then do a huge advertising campaign asking voters to “vote the adults back into power” and “vote in the LNP for stability”.
The gaslighting will be insane.
Minguseyes on
I wonder about the position of the Liberal National Party of Qld (LNP) in all this brouhaha. Wikipedia states:
^(Where are federal LNP members going to sit? I understand there are more ‘National’ members than ‘Libs’. If the LNP entered into a coalition with the Nats then that would outnumber the Libs and become the official opposition.)
ziggyyT on
You are not my friend, hmph.
perthguppy on
There is little benifit in being on coalition in opposition then you have the largest numbers.
Liberals need to leave the nationals out in the cold, and focus campaign on the metro seats. Maybe even have the metro LNP members from Queensland walk away from that party and re-launch a Queensland Federal Liberals party. Potentially the liberals should even try and find common ground with the teals. Their sole focus should be on rebuilding their seat count by winning seats off of labor, and forcing labor into a minority status. Once that happens then they can regroup and look at governing with a grand coalition European style. Each constituent party gets a number of cabinet portfolios consistent with their total seat count, cabinet is bound by party room votes and cabinet votes, and any cabinet member who votes against a voted position is sent to the back bench and their seat given to someone else from that party.
HuTyphoon on
This is just the epitome of the saying ‘cut off the nose to spite the face’
I hope they all lose their seats to independents next election. It would just be the absolute icing on the cake if both the liberals and nationals die in obscurity as a stain on Australian politics.
EmpressNeuronist on
> Hogan confirmed one of the sticking points remained the Nationals’ demand that Ley reverse her decision to accept the resignations of the three senators who crossed the floor to oppose Labor’s bill, which triggered the second Coalition breakup in eight months.
> The Coalition split occurred after Ley accepted the resignation of three Nationals who crossed the floor on Labor’s hate speech laws, prompting all of the country party’s frontbenchers to quit in solidarity.
I just can’t understand the whole thing from the Nationals’ prospective.
N – Screw you, we three are quitting.
L – Alright then.
N – What? All of us are quitting.
L – Alright then.
N – No, not like that. You shouldn’t accept their resignation and if you don’t reinstate them then there will be no deal.
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Good.
For the Liberals to even think about moving towards the centre, forming a credible opposition and eventually government, they need to get away from the national party.
Having a junior coalition partner calling the shots is simply untenable.
Would increase my respect for Ley if she can stick to this.
Next, they should sit in the corner facing the wall while in parliament, so they can think about what they’ve done.
Either two things will happen before the next election
1. They rejoin the coalition
2. Susssan wont be leader anymore
Simply because she holds a rural seat which will be at risk if the Nats run a candidate there
Honestly they sound like misbehaving children in a classroom, lol.
They’ll pull themselves apart and then sow it all back together just before the election. They will then do a huge advertising campaign asking voters to “vote the adults back into power” and “vote in the LNP for stability”.
The gaslighting will be insane.
I wonder about the position of the Liberal National Party of Qld (LNP) in all this brouhaha. Wikipedia states:
*Federal LNP parliamentarians sit in the* [*party room*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_group) *of either the Liberals or the Nationals, depending on which federal party their seat has been allocated to by the LNP.*[*^([8])*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_National_Party_of_Queensland#cite_note-10) *The LNP is a division of the* [*Liberal Party of Australia*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia) *and an affiliate of the* [*National Party of Australia*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_of_Australia)*.*[*^([9])*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_National_Party_of_Queensland#cite_note-11)
^(Where are federal LNP members going to sit? I understand there are more ‘National’ members than ‘Libs’. If the LNP entered into a coalition with the Nats then that would outnumber the Libs and become the official opposition.)
You are not my friend, hmph.
There is little benifit in being on coalition in opposition then you have the largest numbers.
Liberals need to leave the nationals out in the cold, and focus campaign on the metro seats. Maybe even have the metro LNP members from Queensland walk away from that party and re-launch a Queensland Federal Liberals party. Potentially the liberals should even try and find common ground with the teals. Their sole focus should be on rebuilding their seat count by winning seats off of labor, and forcing labor into a minority status. Once that happens then they can regroup and look at governing with a grand coalition European style. Each constituent party gets a number of cabinet portfolios consistent with their total seat count, cabinet is bound by party room votes and cabinet votes, and any cabinet member who votes against a voted position is sent to the back bench and their seat given to someone else from that party.
This is just the epitome of the saying ‘cut off the nose to spite the face’
I hope they all lose their seats to independents next election. It would just be the absolute icing on the cake if both the liberals and nationals die in obscurity as a stain on Australian politics.
> Hogan confirmed one of the sticking points remained the Nationals’ demand that Ley reverse her decision to accept the resignations of the three senators who crossed the floor to oppose Labor’s bill, which triggered the second Coalition breakup in eight months.
> The Coalition split occurred after Ley accepted the resignation of three Nationals who crossed the floor on Labor’s hate speech laws, prompting all of the country party’s frontbenchers to quit in solidarity.
I just can’t understand the whole thing from the Nationals’ prospective.
N – Screw you, we three are quitting.
L – Alright then.
N – What? All of us are quitting.
L – Alright then.
N – No, not like that. You shouldn’t accept their resignation and if you don’t reinstate them then there will be no deal.
??!!