High time to address this issue that is filling the coffers of an US duopoly at the expense of European (small) businesses, not to mention the implications of handing over your financial payment services to an increasingly unhinged and unreliable foreign power.
DramaticSimple4315 on
The easiest business there ever was. Crazy that the EU let itself ransomned for decades, with billions and billions channeled all the way to US retirees on the south Florida coast, for a trivial service any european company could have provided.
The stupidest thing in all this being that Eurocard was initially a european consortium that let isleft be eaten by mastercard, and that their was the “Carte Bancaire” consortium in France also proposing a payment service.
nim_opet on
Finally.
TTWBB_V2 on
Better late than never. Should have been on this like 20 years ago, but still…
Chemical_Station_945 on
Does it work with a Linux phone? Or what if I don’t have a phone or internet connection?
If it only works with Android and iOS, then it won’t eliminate the dependence on US companies completely.
But it’s still better if the transaction cost stays in the EU.
Goldenrah on
If we average a transactional cost from 2 to 3%, at 24 billion dollars (so called trillion in american english) that puts us at 480 to 720 milliard dollars paid out to VISA and Mastercard every single year, going out of the European Union.
Adventurous_Hand3705 on
We might have been slow to catch on whats happening with the US….but were there now loud and clear
Ironvos on
While i appreciate the attempt to move away from visa/mastercard, relying on Wero is not really much better. It’s a phone payment app which in turn then relies on google and apple. Bank and payment apps rarely if ever work properly on degoogled phones.
Also i don’t even use a phone to pay with in shops, it’s clumsy, i do use it at home when i shop online.
lardiannomine on
This can’t come soon enough. We for sure need a united Europe across all fronts and we cannot afford any longer to have such critical infrastructure depending on a different country.
It’s a shame that the world gets torn apart and more divided, instead of trying to joint forces towards a peaceful goal, but with the games that US, China and Russia play, there’s just no other alternative.
Kazeninaru on
Would be very cool is Wero wasn’t such a terrible product. I got problems with everything using it. Very simple features, like seeing the profile of someone who sent me money, so I can send them money back, are missing. Contacts aren’t syncing. I could go on.
Dangerous-LemonBar on
This will negate a tool used by the US to apply sanctions to Europeans it doesn’t like, such as International Criminal Court justices and certain politicians it disagrees with.
shangriLaaaaaaa on
Incoming crying from mastercard and visa to papa trump ,when india created their own network card called rupay,they went to papa trump stating Monopoly tactics by india
mrbn100ful on
Watch it being build around Google Play integrity.
tischbeinmussweinen on
>Breakup With Visa and Mastercard
Look inside:
Wero
Wero is basically just a PayPal clone hooked up to your banking app. That’s it. So no “Breakup With Visa and Mastercard” but more like “European Alternative to Paypal”
Any-Original-6113 on
Good news for Europe
Honourablefool on
Digital euro should’ve been implemented right after the 2008 banking crisis. For the lovenof god give us a place to stall our money that isn’t gambling with our savings.
Now banks are coming with their own payment system hoping we will still be dependent on them. The article says Wero and Deuro aren’t competitors. I don’t think banks view it that way
wowlock_taylan on
After the whole Steam debacle where they showed THEY can decide what to ban instead of laws, it definitely showed how dangerous and big they have grown and a duopoly.
IgorGirkinStrelkov2 on
Amazing news! Let the money stay in Europe!
Lapkonium on
If China, India, and Russia can, why can’t EU?
Oculosdegrau on
Europe should copy Brazil’s PIX
N19h7m4r3 on
Hey, standardize Multibanco from PT. It works reasonably well and would be awesome to break the monopoly they have in PT lol
MNABR on
Go PIX!
Easy-Huckleberry-286 on
Paypal market cap 31 mrd 🤔
musapha on
Please please please just use BLIK – native EU system, more convenient than credit cards for one-time payments. Don’t play catchup when we can step up the game.
Mephzice on
great, hope us in Iceland will be able to choose the EU alternative in the future
snakelygiggles on
good. visa and mc are fucking monsters.
Minimum-Can2224 on
Better late than never I guess. I really wish that would’ve done this sooner.
Limesmack91 on
Cool, this is the kind of initiatives we need, though i think also offering physical cards would be a plus for a lot of people as well.
On a side note, they could have done a bit of a better job with their website though
Seethesvt on
Debt is the only way for billiaires to stay billionaires. There isn’t enough money in the working class to spend like we do without debt. They need us to have debt to find their lifestyle.
Diligent-Ad4777 on
Yes. Next Stripe and all the other vampires taking a % off every financial transaction.
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And not a moment too soon.
High time to address this issue that is filling the coffers of an US duopoly at the expense of European (small) businesses, not to mention the implications of handing over your financial payment services to an increasingly unhinged and unreliable foreign power.
The easiest business there ever was. Crazy that the EU let itself ransomned for decades, with billions and billions channeled all the way to US retirees on the south Florida coast, for a trivial service any european company could have provided.
The stupidest thing in all this being that Eurocard was initially a european consortium that let isleft be eaten by mastercard, and that their was the “Carte Bancaire” consortium in France also proposing a payment service.
Finally.
Better late than never. Should have been on this like 20 years ago, but still…
Does it work with a Linux phone? Or what if I don’t have a phone or internet connection?
If it only works with Android and iOS, then it won’t eliminate the dependence on US companies completely.
But it’s still better if the transaction cost stays in the EU.
If we average a transactional cost from 2 to 3%, at 24 billion dollars (so called trillion in american english) that puts us at 480 to 720 milliard dollars paid out to VISA and Mastercard every single year, going out of the European Union.
We might have been slow to catch on whats happening with the US….but were there now loud and clear
While i appreciate the attempt to move away from visa/mastercard, relying on Wero is not really much better. It’s a phone payment app which in turn then relies on google and apple. Bank and payment apps rarely if ever work properly on degoogled phones.
Also i don’t even use a phone to pay with in shops, it’s clumsy, i do use it at home when i shop online.
This can’t come soon enough. We for sure need a united Europe across all fronts and we cannot afford any longer to have such critical infrastructure depending on a different country.
It’s a shame that the world gets torn apart and more divided, instead of trying to joint forces towards a peaceful goal, but with the games that US, China and Russia play, there’s just no other alternative.
Would be very cool is Wero wasn’t such a terrible product. I got problems with everything using it. Very simple features, like seeing the profile of someone who sent me money, so I can send them money back, are missing. Contacts aren’t syncing. I could go on.
This will negate a tool used by the US to apply sanctions to Europeans it doesn’t like, such as International Criminal Court justices and certain politicians it disagrees with.
Incoming crying from mastercard and visa to papa trump ,when india created their own network card called rupay,they went to papa trump stating Monopoly tactics by india
Watch it being build around Google Play integrity.
>Breakup With Visa and Mastercard
Look inside:
Wero
Wero is basically just a PayPal clone hooked up to your banking app. That’s it. So no “Breakup With Visa and Mastercard” but more like “European Alternative to Paypal”
Good news for Europe
Digital euro should’ve been implemented right after the 2008 banking crisis. For the lovenof god give us a place to stall our money that isn’t gambling with our savings.
Now banks are coming with their own payment system hoping we will still be dependent on them. The article says Wero and Deuro aren’t competitors. I don’t think banks view it that way
After the whole Steam debacle where they showed THEY can decide what to ban instead of laws, it definitely showed how dangerous and big they have grown and a duopoly.
Amazing news! Let the money stay in Europe!
If China, India, and Russia can, why can’t EU?
Europe should copy Brazil’s PIX
Hey, standardize Multibanco from PT. It works reasonably well and would be awesome to break the monopoly they have in PT lol
Go PIX!
Paypal market cap 31 mrd 🤔
Please please please just use BLIK – native EU system, more convenient than credit cards for one-time payments. Don’t play catchup when we can step up the game.
great, hope us in Iceland will be able to choose the EU alternative in the future
good. visa and mc are fucking monsters.
Better late than never I guess. I really wish that would’ve done this sooner.
Cool, this is the kind of initiatives we need, though i think also offering physical cards would be a plus for a lot of people as well.
On a side note, they could have done a bit of a better job with their website though
Debt is the only way for billiaires to stay billionaires. There isn’t enough money in the working class to spend like we do without debt. They need us to have debt to find their lifestyle.
Yes. Next Stripe and all the other vampires taking a % off every financial transaction.