I don’t know where I stand on this, leave the mothers there and let the children grow up in these dangerous camps where they most likely grow up to be extremists but still with Australian passports or bring them home despite the women having gone there voluntarily? Not an ideal situation
asx98 on
Something that I’m trying to reconcile in my head is the ABCs understanding that the families were issued Australian passports however the Federal Government has indicated it will not offer assistance to anyone trying to leave Syria – how do these two statements reconcile?
Nonstop_Chippies on
I’m assuming quite a few were probably born there, so I’m not sure why’d they be getting Australian passports.
Is there any of the original parents left or is it mainly the kids of he parents?
EbonBehelit on
These are our people. Our responsibility.
If that means they have to attend extensive deradicalization programs, so be it. If it means they have to spend some time inside jail cells for abetting terrorists, so be it. If it means they have to be monitored for suspicious behaviour for the rest of their lives, so be it.
But they *are* ours, and should be given at least the basic human courtesy of being allowed to return to Australian soil — for their children’s sakes, if nothing else.
ikarka on
I mean what’s the alternative? Keep the Kurds guarding them until Syria’s ISIS sympathising government sets them all free and we have the caliphate 2.0?
jonesday5 on
People love to talk about deporting people from Australia and yet they don’t want to ensure the safety of Australian children. Hypocritical nonsense. Being a good global citizen means looking after what’s yours even if it isn’t ideal.
CerberusOCR on
These people chose to leave Australia and join a terrorist organisation. If they are to return here they should be locked up for whatever war crimes they were involved in.
Flaky-Gear-1370 on
Gee what a compelling argument she puts forward for bringing them home
“Ms Ibrahim said time was of the essence because children were growing up surrounded by “dangerous ideas and ideologies” in the camp.”
So in other words they aren’t exactly rehabilitated….
duc1990 on
>The ABC was also told Australian passports had already been issued to the families.
Passport covers were probably already so warped by the time it got to them rendering them unusable for travel.
Signal-Treacle-5512 on
We just love kicking ourselves in the nuts over and over.
M_Ad on
What opportunities and assistance are they going to receive once they’re back here to find a community and supports outside of ultra conservative Islam which clearly hasn’t been doing them much good thus far?
NoUseForALagwagon on
There is an update on the ABC website that says they have been forced to return to the camp in Syria effective immediatly and are being escorted back.
Labor also put out a statement that it would not help them return to Australia.
Seems like it was well handled.
But of course, social media is in hysterics over a headline and we’ll get more “POORLINE SAYS WHAT WE ARE ALL THINKING” nonsense over this.
sheppo42 on
Hey what’s the worst an ISIS believing kid could do here?!
ScreamHawk on
Why… are we allowing this into the country?
Literal extremists.
Jackal8570 on
They’ve been turned around.
Silver_Detective8630 on
These children are going to be very difficult to assimilate when/ if they return. Difficult decisions all around.
OneTouchCards on
True blue Aussies these lot 🇦🇺
Weak-Tadpole-2757 on
You bring them back, and you will reap the rewards. We should never negotiate with terrorism.
waddeaf on
This will probably get ugly if it gets attention but end of the day they are citizens.
Citizenship is (rightly) something that is pretty difficult to strip. I suspect a good chunk probably aren’t dual nationals, if they were they’d probably had their citizenship revoked by prior governments.
Frankly even if they are dual nationals it’s kind of a shitty thing to do to just fob off criminals to some other country because you don’t have the effort to oversee them, why should they become for example Syria’s problem?
Shadowmessage on
Is this meant to help social cohesion in Australia?
Jealous-Hedgehog-734 on
If they returned to Australia wouldn’t they be tried as terrorists? The Islamic State (IS/ISIS) has been listed as a terrorist organisation for over 20 years now.
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This is gonna become a shit fight isn’t it
I don’t know where I stand on this, leave the mothers there and let the children grow up in these dangerous camps where they most likely grow up to be extremists but still with Australian passports or bring them home despite the women having gone there voluntarily? Not an ideal situation
Something that I’m trying to reconcile in my head is the ABCs understanding that the families were issued Australian passports however the Federal Government has indicated it will not offer assistance to anyone trying to leave Syria – how do these two statements reconcile?
I’m assuming quite a few were probably born there, so I’m not sure why’d they be getting Australian passports.
Is there any of the original parents left or is it mainly the kids of he parents?
These are our people. Our responsibility.
If that means they have to attend extensive deradicalization programs, so be it. If it means they have to spend some time inside jail cells for abetting terrorists, so be it. If it means they have to be monitored for suspicious behaviour for the rest of their lives, so be it.
But they *are* ours, and should be given at least the basic human courtesy of being allowed to return to Australian soil — for their children’s sakes, if nothing else.
I mean what’s the alternative? Keep the Kurds guarding them until Syria’s ISIS sympathising government sets them all free and we have the caliphate 2.0?
People love to talk about deporting people from Australia and yet they don’t want to ensure the safety of Australian children. Hypocritical nonsense. Being a good global citizen means looking after what’s yours even if it isn’t ideal.
These people chose to leave Australia and join a terrorist organisation. If they are to return here they should be locked up for whatever war crimes they were involved in.
Gee what a compelling argument she puts forward for bringing them home
“Ms Ibrahim said time was of the essence because children were growing up surrounded by “dangerous ideas and ideologies” in the camp.”
So in other words they aren’t exactly rehabilitated….
>The ABC was also told Australian passports had already been issued to the families.
Passport covers were probably already so warped by the time it got to them rendering them unusable for travel.
We just love kicking ourselves in the nuts over and over.
What opportunities and assistance are they going to receive once they’re back here to find a community and supports outside of ultra conservative Islam which clearly hasn’t been doing them much good thus far?
There is an update on the ABC website that says they have been forced to return to the camp in Syria effective immediatly and are being escorted back.
Labor also put out a statement that it would not help them return to Australia.
Seems like it was well handled.
But of course, social media is in hysterics over a headline and we’ll get more “POORLINE SAYS WHAT WE ARE ALL THINKING” nonsense over this.
Hey what’s the worst an ISIS believing kid could do here?!
Why… are we allowing this into the country?
Literal extremists.
They’ve been turned around.
These children are going to be very difficult to assimilate when/ if they return. Difficult decisions all around.
True blue Aussies these lot 🇦🇺
You bring them back, and you will reap the rewards. We should never negotiate with terrorism.
This will probably get ugly if it gets attention but end of the day they are citizens.
Citizenship is (rightly) something that is pretty difficult to strip. I suspect a good chunk probably aren’t dual nationals, if they were they’d probably had their citizenship revoked by prior governments.
Frankly even if they are dual nationals it’s kind of a shitty thing to do to just fob off criminals to some other country because you don’t have the effort to oversee them, why should they become for example Syria’s problem?
Is this meant to help social cohesion in Australia?
If they returned to Australia wouldn’t they be tried as terrorists? The Islamic State (IS/ISIS) has been listed as a terrorist organisation for over 20 years now.
They repatriated some of them previously but unfortunately they did it in the most callous way possible and dumped them into the [Assyrian area of Sydney](https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/how-isis-brides-and-their-children-are-being-resettled-back-in-australia/rkjnysyiv). The very people who fled Islamic violence ended up with ISIS families in their communities.🤦🏻♂️