I love how much open contempt King Charles has for Andrew, almost makes me patriotic.
No_Suit_9511 on
Palace staff (and Charles) knew Andrew was a bad choice for trade envoy.
Hopefully some of them can be compelling to testify against him.
LauraPhilps7654 on
I long for the day Mandelson’s faction is shown the door from the Labour party. Mind you lining up Hodge for the Ofcom job shows they’ve learned nothing. She’s got her own skeletons in the closet also.
Andrew has been a known problem for some time apparently so long that when a royal footman punched Andrew the Queen refused to accept their resignation knowing Andrew no doubt deserved it.
ArgusButterfly on
One possible reading could be … they protected him for so long, until it became inevitable the game was going to be up, at which point they began the process of distancing themselves from him (stripping him of his titles, etc) so that they could eventually be seen to be removed from him and take the moral high ground, protecting the institution of the monarchy.
TLDR: They threw him under the gold carriage.
TRUZ0 on
I just hope everyone connected to Epstein gets arrested and the book thrown at them.
lordnacho666 on
In both cases, being unqualified was the qualification, wasn’t it?
Obviously you don’t get the Queen’s son to be trade envoy because you think he understands business. You bring him along to parties to have a bit of glamour, tell a few stories from time to time, and generally to spread a bit of royal fairy-dust on otherwise rather boring proceedings. If things go well, then of course you act like his contribution was that he was a great handler of cross-cultural relationships, benefiting the country.
As for Mandelson, well, you make him ambassador because you know he is mates with some unsavory people that you want to keep informed about. An actual ambassador is a career diplomat, and in this case the guy who does that work just gets a senior job at the embassy instead. Was it a risk? Yes, and it exploded badly. But lets get real here, he wasn’t a normal ambassador, and we knew perfectly well why we wanted him there.
Now that both have fallen from grace we are pretending they were taking up roles that they should never have had, when we actually had perfectly understandable reasons to have them there. Maybe not good reasons, but reasons that have ordinary and sensible motivations.
Agreeable_Falcon1044 on
I wonder what the common denominator is. Amazed none of these just threw trump to the wolves for fiddling kids and protected the bigger little web
douggieball1312 on
Remind me why Mandelson himself hasn’t been arrested yet?
Ok-Blackberry-3534 on
Oh, Mandy. Well you came and you gave without taking…
postexitus on
Was Mandelson involved in this “misconduct in public office” offense – besides the recommendation for assignment?
Efficient_Sky5173 on
After everything Prince Andrew has been accused of… It gives the impression that some people in those circles believe they are untouchable.
New movie title: “The Untouchables Who Liked to Touch.”
8u11etpr00f on
Not paying to access the article…but is there any actual proof of these claims?
Seems like a very easy PR win to say the King was against Andrew becoming trade envoy but at the end of the day is there any actual proof?
soggyarsonist on
Paywall. Any evidence to substantiate this claim or are we just taking his and the Telegraphs word?
jamspi on
The royals aren’t getting out of this that easy. Palace staff and by extension the crown knew what he was up to. Would love to see the source of that 12m hush money too.
Mountain_Strategy342 on
Aaaaand here we go. The leak from the woodwork has started.
Alternative_Bit_7306 on
But he wasn’t King when that appointment was made. It would be the Queen’s wishes Mandy would be caring about?
TheHornyGoth on
Quelle surprise
(Alleged) Nonces love (alleged) nonces. Allegedly.
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I love how much open contempt King Charles has for Andrew, almost makes me patriotic.
Palace staff (and Charles) knew Andrew was a bad choice for trade envoy.
Hopefully some of them can be compelling to testify against him.
I long for the day Mandelson’s faction is shown the door from the Labour party. Mind you lining up Hodge for the Ofcom job shows they’ve learned nothing. She’s got her own skeletons in the closet also.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3270149.stm
Andrew has been a known problem for some time apparently so long that when a royal footman punched Andrew the Queen refused to accept their resignation knowing Andrew no doubt deserved it.
One possible reading could be … they protected him for so long, until it became inevitable the game was going to be up, at which point they began the process of distancing themselves from him (stripping him of his titles, etc) so that they could eventually be seen to be removed from him and take the moral high ground, protecting the institution of the monarchy.
TLDR: They threw him under the gold carriage.
I just hope everyone connected to Epstein gets arrested and the book thrown at them.
In both cases, being unqualified was the qualification, wasn’t it?
Obviously you don’t get the Queen’s son to be trade envoy because you think he understands business. You bring him along to parties to have a bit of glamour, tell a few stories from time to time, and generally to spread a bit of royal fairy-dust on otherwise rather boring proceedings. If things go well, then of course you act like his contribution was that he was a great handler of cross-cultural relationships, benefiting the country.
As for Mandelson, well, you make him ambassador because you know he is mates with some unsavory people that you want to keep informed about. An actual ambassador is a career diplomat, and in this case the guy who does that work just gets a senior job at the embassy instead. Was it a risk? Yes, and it exploded badly. But lets get real here, he wasn’t a normal ambassador, and we knew perfectly well why we wanted him there.
Now that both have fallen from grace we are pretending they were taking up roles that they should never have had, when we actually had perfectly understandable reasons to have them there. Maybe not good reasons, but reasons that have ordinary and sensible motivations.
I wonder what the common denominator is. Amazed none of these just threw trump to the wolves for fiddling kids and protected the bigger little web
Remind me why Mandelson himself hasn’t been arrested yet?
Oh, Mandy. Well you came and you gave without taking…
Was Mandelson involved in this “misconduct in public office” offense – besides the recommendation for assignment?
After everything Prince Andrew has been accused of… It gives the impression that some people in those circles believe they are untouchable.
New movie title: “The Untouchables Who Liked to Touch.”
Not paying to access the article…but is there any actual proof of these claims?
Seems like a very easy PR win to say the King was against Andrew becoming trade envoy but at the end of the day is there any actual proof?
Paywall. Any evidence to substantiate this claim or are we just taking his and the Telegraphs word?
The royals aren’t getting out of this that easy. Palace staff and by extension the crown knew what he was up to. Would love to see the source of that 12m hush money too.
Aaaaand here we go. The leak from the woodwork has started.
But he wasn’t King when that appointment was made. It would be the Queen’s wishes Mandy would be caring about?
Quelle surprise
(Alleged) Nonces love (alleged) nonces. Allegedly.