Suspicious minds: Why Europeans are considering their post-America nuclear options
https://ecfr.eu/article/suspicious-minds-why-europeans-are-considering-their-post-america-nuclear-options/
Posted by 1-randomonium
Suspicious minds: Why Europeans are considering their post-America nuclear options
https://ecfr.eu/article/suspicious-minds-why-europeans-are-considering-their-post-america-nuclear-options/
Posted by 1-randomonium
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The considering phase will last 15 years. That’s before the planning phase truly kicks in (30 years).
The only plan I see from European leaders is to ride on France’s nuclear arsenal by extracting a rhetorical promise out of Macron, who will be out in 2027, as will that promise.
If even in times likes these the EU doesn’t have the guts to rip the junk that is NPT apart and build itself a deterrent, I can only imagine how ambitious the EU is going to be when Trump is out and diplomatic charm offensives from the US are back.
I firmly believe nukes are pointless. They worked once because nobody else had them.
It’s a chicken race that either doesn’t get off the ground (like the last 80 years) or one where nobody swerves in which case having them only ensured mutually assured destruction where nobody wins. Their only purpose at that point would be to make it an eye for an eye.
Is this really a “why?” question? Unless you were living in a cave over the last year, the answer should be pretty obvious.
Europe must develop all kinds of weapons with the goal of becoming capable to defend itself. No more naif politics in EU.
Poland and the Baltic nations need their own nukes as soon as possible.
Europe needs to seriously rearm. Trump clearly has no red lines and will ally with Russia soon
lol no one is considering anything
Because is the only thing that guarantee bot being invaded.
>In all their conversations about evolving European nuclear deterrence, leaders should not forget that loose talk in Europe could loosen restraints on nuclear proliferation in other parts of the world.
That Ship has sailed, sunk and been turned into a diving attraction by now.
The entire Article seems to take the US position as gospel, as well. Resulting in:
> To borrow from the latest US Strategic Posture Commission, French and British nuclear forces—as the core of a future European strategic deterrent—likely need to grow in size and change composition (or both) to account for structural changes in US defence strategy and Trump-specific hits to US credibility.
“Trump-specific hits” make me doubt the author has understood a damn thing about how trust works. If his Majesty dies tomorrow, the rot is still the same.
Also pretends that no additional nuclear capable states need even be considered.
The most credible part of this entire (US centric) opinion:
>For example, Germany and Italy have long been host countries for forward-deployed US nuclear weapons […] As such, these countries might bring greater bureaucratic and habitual attachment to the US-centred system than other countries.
Quite a reasonable guess. But that is all it really is, a guess. Merz had to 180 his entire foreign stance in light of the US downfall. Once the last embers of “transatlantic concerns” have gone, who knows what Germany might do. The Government certainly doesn’t.
How are rebuilding conventional forces, battling inflation, an aging population, and the need for further healthcare investments going to be addressed with an additional nuclear cost?
They wont do anything.
A lot of europeans cheering for the Iranian collapse
I just hope you all know that Greenland is NEXT now that Venezuela, Iran are gone. Those two were the top two priorities. Greenland is the remaining one he made clear.
Personally i have no hope and expect the annexation of Greenland to be completed right before the US midterms this November to give him the popularity boost. This is going to be his midterm ploy.