Per https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_421
They want to make illegal “creation, acquisition, possession and dissemination of blueprints for 3D printing of firearms”. I’m guessing linking to YouTube videos, on which some US guy 3d prints a gun would be illegal. No words on banning gunsmith books yet.
freyhstart on
The blueprints part goes too far.
nikshdev on
Good luck, have fun.
allwordsaremadeup on
Everyone with half a brain cell can see how enforcing this will be so problematic..
Crafty_Aspect8122 on
Ban all metal pipes and welding tools too.
Obvious_Badger_9874 on
Give me plumbing tubes a condom a nail and bullets and i make a gun. This is useless and will again attack our privacy.
Just_Information334 on
What’s fun is the current military precision rifle improvements come from the US precision shooter enthusiast community. Not from big daddy corpos. And the EU keeps on going against civilians having, making and using weapons; missing on a lot of opportunities.
Progress but only when guided by the nanny states and you would not want the plebe to have the means to revolt. Same mentality the nobles had for centuries.
dgkimpton on
Ah yes, because censoring information works so well…
Unhappy_Sugar_5091 on
So the glorious union is back to directives and regulations and rules. The real key to lead the world.
SexyGasMantle on
You cannot print a firearm. You can print the trigger, rails, the shell. But the barrel, the breech, the ammo, that needs to be metal.
Any guy with a lathe and/cnc router is much more dangerous. But those you cannot control because they’re not cloud based.
Its stupid. If you want to hurt people, you’re gonna find a way. This is not an efficient one
Icy_Supermarket8776 on
Fine, I just paint my blueprints red
Sevinki on
Ah yes, lets focus on the important topics like 3d printed guns…
Meme-Botto9001 on
Can anyone please show me where 3D-printed guns are used to commit crime? Where did people printing 3D guns get the ammunition and why is this not the problem?
WhereasSeparate894 on
How will you stick this complexity into Arduino sized board which runs the printer?
Busy-Dream-4853 on
If you want to use one, you don’t care about the law. Same shit like more rules for legal gun owners. Your hitting the wrong group. And what is a 3D gun plan? Are home printed parts for airsoft guns also involved? Why is a 3D printer legal?
bremidon on
Prediction: this will do absolutely nothing to actually prevent criminals from using this, and some perversion of an interpretation will end up being used against normal people for things that no sane person would consider a “weapon”.
Nazamroth on
You can beat someone to death with a stick. Consequently, owning a blueprint of a long cylinder will be illegal. Even if unenforced for common sense cases, this would be a blatant excuse to proescute anyone involved with the field.
Any-Original-6113 on
Another unviable project.
To ban blueprints, you’d have to ban the internet.
And 3D printers, for that matter.
TheAleFly on
I draw a technical sketch of a gun, am I now a criminal?
Kikelt on
Extremely dificult to implement….
How you define a gun blueprint? If I only have a part modeled? Or several parts separated? If I have a modeled toy? What if It doesnt have a gun shape? What if it for shooting paper balls? What if it’s actually meant to be a gun bit it’s designed poorly and doesnt work in real life? Making some sketches in your laptop is illegal?
I have 5 3d printers and this all seems comical. It’s like 50 year old lawyers trying to understand that people with medium level knowledge of 3d modeling can designed a simple “hand cannon”.
Outside plastic printing…. What if you have a metallic tube? Is that a gun? It can be used as such.
The proposed law in the US is trying to force all 3d printing software to detect and block the printing of guns… which tells how little they know about the topic and how that’s impossible.
Pandabirdy on
More privacy intrusion gateway laws. It’s over at this point, they are just making shit up with the end goal of prosecuting you for not filing taxes on home made knitted socks on marketplace.
gigasawblade on
You can’t just buy a .22 conversion kit and ammo in the EU, then print a frame and get a full thing.
I’m interested in guns and have a 3D printer, but printing a gun seems like a waste of time and money. Not to mention risk of it blowing up in my face
12DecX2002 on
Most of the EU parliament are probably still figuring out how to print a gun with a typewriter.
pruchel on
When you try to criminalize possession of information you can just kindly go fuck yourself.
Confident_Dragon on
It should be also mandatory for news article about new regulation proposals to include names and political affiliation of people proposing it.
tractorator on
Another measure done by halfwits who didn’t bother asking experts if it’s possible.
FailedButterfly on
What is the difference between blueprints and written down ideas? Yes, this question is not really honest.
LiquicityMS on
Europe: burocracy and prohibitions, art of freedom
hamstar_potato on
No more cosplaying armed characters with weird guns, guys.
DaySecure7642 on
More regulations on industries that the EU doesn’t have, really?
mrlinkwii on
how will this be inforced ?if i use blender and and make a model and do a print on a local printer how will this be enforced
mhaom on
Ah yes – with all the important things going on like wars, declining influence and core industries being outcompeted, I’m glad our leaders are focusing on the thing on everyone’s mind; 3d printed guns.
Take that China.
warhead71 on
In USA – the vital parts isn’t a gun – and hence can be ordered online – which for me as an European sounds crazy (if correct).
But anyway – cheaper / easier CNC machines are arriving – so metal 3d printing will get more common and laws have to be adjusted
Ok-Purchase8196 on
Let me guess this was a German’s idea?
ThisTheRealLife on
Oh for fucks sake!
this is such a stupid take. First of all they should unify gun laws in all member states. At the moment different states have different laws on markings and what qualifies as a gun part. E.g. in Austria only the trigger group defines a weapon. You can buy all other parts of the gun without any issue. Take those to a country where e.g. the barrel is the limited part and boom you have a ghost gun that is an actual proper quality gun.
That is way wayyy easier to do than designing and manufacturing your own weapon.
yolomoonrocket on
Il will start adding promt injections and encryptions to my files if they go through with the draconian bullshit.
Clippy4Life on
There are so much easier ways to make a wepon than going the 3D printed route.
Katsu_Vohlakari on
With the police being as dumb as the legislators that proposed this stupid thing I can see them arresting people that build movie and game prop guns. These people have absolutely no fucking idea what 3d-printing is.
SwissPewPew on
You don‘t even need a blueprint (STL file), printer movement instructions (GCode) are sufficient.
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Per https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_421
They want to make illegal “creation, acquisition, possession and dissemination of blueprints for 3D printing of firearms”. I’m guessing linking to YouTube videos, on which some US guy 3d prints a gun would be illegal. No words on banning gunsmith books yet.
The blueprints part goes too far.
Good luck, have fun.
Everyone with half a brain cell can see how enforcing this will be so problematic..
Ban all metal pipes and welding tools too.
Give me plumbing tubes a condom a nail and bullets and i make a gun. This is useless and will again attack our privacy.
What’s fun is the current military precision rifle improvements come from the US precision shooter enthusiast community. Not from big daddy corpos. And the EU keeps on going against civilians having, making and using weapons; missing on a lot of opportunities.
Progress but only when guided by the nanny states and you would not want the plebe to have the means to revolt. Same mentality the nobles had for centuries.
Ah yes, because censoring information works so well…
So the glorious union is back to directives and regulations and rules. The real key to lead the world.
You cannot print a firearm. You can print the trigger, rails, the shell. But the barrel, the breech, the ammo, that needs to be metal.
Any guy with a lathe and/cnc router is much more dangerous. But those you cannot control because they’re not cloud based.
Its stupid. If you want to hurt people, you’re gonna find a way. This is not an efficient one
Fine, I just paint my blueprints red
Ah yes, lets focus on the important topics like 3d printed guns…
Can anyone please show me where 3D-printed guns are used to commit crime? Where did people printing 3D guns get the ammunition and why is this not the problem?
How will you stick this complexity into Arduino sized board which runs the printer?
If you want to use one, you don’t care about the law. Same shit like more rules for legal gun owners. Your hitting the wrong group. And what is a 3D gun plan? Are home printed parts for airsoft guns also involved? Why is a 3D printer legal?
Prediction: this will do absolutely nothing to actually prevent criminals from using this, and some perversion of an interpretation will end up being used against normal people for things that no sane person would consider a “weapon”.
You can beat someone to death with a stick. Consequently, owning a blueprint of a long cylinder will be illegal. Even if unenforced for common sense cases, this would be a blatant excuse to proescute anyone involved with the field.
Another unviable project.
To ban blueprints, you’d have to ban the internet.
And 3D printers, for that matter.
I draw a technical sketch of a gun, am I now a criminal?
Extremely dificult to implement….
How you define a gun blueprint? If I only have a part modeled? Or several parts separated? If I have a modeled toy? What if It doesnt have a gun shape? What if it for shooting paper balls? What if it’s actually meant to be a gun bit it’s designed poorly and doesnt work in real life? Making some sketches in your laptop is illegal?
I have 5 3d printers and this all seems comical. It’s like 50 year old lawyers trying to understand that people with medium level knowledge of 3d modeling can designed a simple “hand cannon”.
Outside plastic printing…. What if you have a metallic tube? Is that a gun? It can be used as such.
The proposed law in the US is trying to force all 3d printing software to detect and block the printing of guns… which tells how little they know about the topic and how that’s impossible.
More privacy intrusion gateway laws. It’s over at this point, they are just making shit up with the end goal of prosecuting you for not filing taxes on home made knitted socks on marketplace.
You can’t just buy a .22 conversion kit and ammo in the EU, then print a frame and get a full thing.
I’m interested in guns and have a 3D printer, but printing a gun seems like a waste of time and money. Not to mention risk of it blowing up in my face
Most of the EU parliament are probably still figuring out how to print a gun with a typewriter.
When you try to criminalize possession of information you can just kindly go fuck yourself.
It should be also mandatory for news article about new regulation proposals to include names and political affiliation of people proposing it.
Another measure done by halfwits who didn’t bother asking experts if it’s possible.
What is the difference between blueprints and written down ideas? Yes, this question is not really honest.
Europe: burocracy and prohibitions, art of freedom
No more cosplaying armed characters with weird guns, guys.
More regulations on industries that the EU doesn’t have, really?
how will this be inforced ?if i use blender and and make a model and do a print on a local printer how will this be enforced
Ah yes – with all the important things going on like wars, declining influence and core industries being outcompeted, I’m glad our leaders are focusing on the thing on everyone’s mind; 3d printed guns.
Take that China.
In USA – the vital parts isn’t a gun – and hence can be ordered online – which for me as an European sounds crazy (if correct).
But anyway – cheaper / easier CNC machines are arriving – so metal 3d printing will get more common and laws have to be adjusted
Let me guess this was a German’s idea?
Oh for fucks sake!
this is such a stupid take. First of all they should unify gun laws in all member states. At the moment different states have different laws on markings and what qualifies as a gun part. E.g. in Austria only the trigger group defines a weapon. You can buy all other parts of the gun without any issue. Take those to a country where e.g. the barrel is the limited part and boom you have a ghost gun that is an actual proper quality gun.
That is way wayyy easier to do than designing and manufacturing your own weapon.
Il will start adding promt injections and encryptions to my files if they go through with the draconian bullshit.
There are so much easier ways to make a wepon than going the 3D printed route.
With the police being as dumb as the legislators that proposed this stupid thing I can see them arresting people that build movie and game prop guns. These people have absolutely no fucking idea what 3d-printing is.
You don‘t even need a blueprint (STL file), printer movement instructions (GCode) are sufficient.