That’s a huge statement if true. Poland has always felt squeezed between Russia and Germany and with the current situation I can see why they’d want their own deterrent. Still the idea of more nuclear states in Europe is unsettling. Hope diplomacy catches up before things escalate further.
rTpure on
Any country that doesn’t want to be invaded by a greater power needs nuclear weapons
Look at Ukraine, Libya, and now Iran
The only reason America doesn’t **** with Kim Jong Un is because they actually have nukes
Evermoving- on
Finally some good news.
HaraJieun on
If I’m not mistaken, this isn’t the first time Poland has said that. I think it’s mainly about applying pressure rather than a genuine intention to acquire nuclear weapons
person1549 on
Looking at the history of Poland, its hardly surprising.
pisowiec on
Never going to happen.
I’d be shocked if either France or the US wants a country like Poland to have nuclear weapons. Global hegemony is more important for them even at the expense of small countries. I don’t even say that as a criticism. I would have the same belief if I were French or American.
JanPapajT90M on
I always strongly approved polish nukes but there are 2 very major problems:
1) Poland doesn’t even have a single nuclear power plant, it will take decades to build own nukes unless someone shares tech(not likely)
2) USA may threaten to make sanctions so politicians will withdraw this idea
I still can’t believe that Tusk wants Poland to have nukes
Sami_Steen on
can’t these dinosaurs fucking extinct I just want to live in peace but these old farts only want war and touch kids
ricLP on
I got downvoted for saying that this Iran and Ukraine stories will just make it much more common that countries will want nukes, AND that there won’t be a way to negotiate them out of this.
Unfortunately this makes our world a lot less safe. All it takes is one regime to throw a nuke at someone and literal hell will break loose on all of us.
I do understand why some countries will try to pursue this
SraminiElMejorBeaver on
Having nukes and no nuclear submarine is useless if they want to be credible, that is why countries like Poland will never ever be able to assume such a high cost that it is financial and diplomatic .
And good luck getting much needed data from nuclear explosion only China, Iran and North Korea still does that….
tranbun on
They’ll make enriched coal bombs to utilize power plants’ potential /s
Jokes aside, boasting about it sounds stupid – if they get one and the world allows them, it’ll seriously undermine NPT and next Cambodia (half Poland’s population)-Thailand (1.5 Poland’s population) conflict can end up with nuclear warheads used. If they don’t get one it’d be just bad rep. Though politicians usually don’t care about such things.
Honestly, joining France’s umbrella would be best provided France is actually ready to use them and have defined protocol that would give Poland clear scenarios where it is and isn’t going to be used.
CheapAttempt2431 on
Unpopular opinion: nuclear proliferation is bad
inokentii on
Thanks to Obama and his successors now everyone will want nukes and I think everyone should obtain it. Nukes is the only real security guarantee
mrpithecanthropus on
The moment Russia invaded Ukraine it became likely that medium-sized states would seek nuclear weapons. The moment the US signalled that it was opting out of leading role in global security it became inevitable.
DonDerBaer on
How does Poland finance that after their announced enormous military buildup?
How do they get the knowhow? So far Poland isn’t operating just a single nuclear power plant and just one (aging) research reactor which is focusing on medical and some industrial research.
Capable_Blood_2627 on
Let me know if you find any
Rohen2003 on
more eu countries need nukes. poland can have some but germany and maybe spain or italy should also get some. right now we are dependend on france to secure the eu and it would only take a single averse goverment there to take back the nuclear shield.
cloud_t on
Better do it now before Russia has a claim to it being “an existential threat next to their borders”, as an excuse for – and I can’t believe I have to say these words combined in 2026 – annexing Poland.
pop4171 on
Err have you looked at Iran right now whether or you are looking at getting nuclear weapons I don’t think you should be saying it out loud
Doctor_Skeptical99 on
Why is Iran being attacked right now?
JustWantTheOldUi on
Sure thing, as soon as we finish that nuclear plant we’ve been planning to build since, checks notes, 1980s.
> Polska nie będzie chciała być pasywna, jeśli chodzi także o bezpieczeństwo nuklearne w kontekście militarnym – stwierdził premier. – Będziemy współpracowali z naszymi sojusznikami, w tym z Francją, która wyszła z tą konkretną ofertą, i wraz ze wzrostem własnych, naszych autonomicznych możliwości, będziemy także starali się przygotować Polskę w przyszłości do jak najbardziej autonomicznych działań w tej kwestii – zadeklarował szef rządu.
I wouldn’t say that “in the future we will try to prepare Poland to as autonomous actions as possible in this matter” is exactly a breaking news material. Looks like typical Tusk – saying a lot without saying anything specific in a way that allows everybody to hear what they want to hear. It might be warheads, it might be rockets, it might not be anything and wil lstill be technically correct.
tree_boom on
That’s easy to say but realistically difficult to do. Poland has no reactors, no enrichment capability and no history in the area. It would be a long, hard and expensive slog to do it…and realistically without testing it probably would not be possible to make weapons that are worth having, which means a huge political battle, especially if they choose to test in Europe.
ulyssebyob on
Having nukes doesn’t mean anything if you can’t deploy them and the only realistic deterrent is a submarine force.
French FOST (Force Océanique Stratégique) is the bare minimum and it costs around 13% of France’s defense budget which would be a +20% minimum added on top of Poland’s budget.
And even then : Where do you put the Subs ? I’m pretty sure that the Baltic is the worst ever sea to have heavy subs with nukes. And I’m not even talking about Kaliningrad and the impossibility of sub dilution.
octahexxer on
Just make a joint tactical nuke program in nato everyone chips in
DanceWonderful3711 on
Along with every country in the world thanks to Trump and Bibi.
GirlCoveredInBlood on
This does raise an interesting question. How can the international community address nuclear proliferation in a situation where the usual method of sanctions is unworkable (in this case due to the nature of the EU where it’s not really possible to sanction one individual country)
lee_cz on
if Poland can have nukes I want one as well
ExactNewt8649 on
If tusk said this , don t worry 🤣
LitmusPitmus on
I don’t blame them. However i’m increasingly convinced that we’ll see a nuclear warhead dropped on a country in my lifetime. It’s crazy how stupid people have been used to destroy the post ww-2 order, they won’t even self reflect either
nora_sellisa on
God I hope not, not until we figure out the proper power split between the army, the President and the Prime Minister. Right now the President can just troll everyone (and Nawrocki does) for political theatre.
Also let’s figure out nuclear power first.
PowerOfUnoriginality on
While I would have preferred a world without nuclear weapons, that is simply not reality and it only makes sense to find a way to acquire them in some shape or form for deterrence when countries like Russia, China, North Korea and United States have them
Cognoggin on
So he’s going to steal some from Russia?
Jesuismieux412 on
Kurwa nuke.
Sracer42 on
90% of this madness can be laid directly at the feet of America and its lunatic leadership. They couldn’t do more harm in the world if harm was their only goal. Maybe it is.
ForTheGloryOfAmn on
Poland is easily 20 years away from producing its own plutonium. It also signed up the treaty of non proliferation of nuclear weapons. Withdrawal would lead to a backlash from the EU, the US, political sanctions, NATO complications. Whether it’s Trump or the next US president, they wouldn’t allow it.
Let’s be honest here, Poland is a US lapdog. I doubt Polish politicians will ever dare to risk this.
ForeignExpression on
But then Israel and the US will have the right to bomb them, including children attending elementary school. And they must be subject to decades of sanctions. And the EU will have to blindly support the US and Israel. Right? Right? That’s what we are doing today to Iran.
Basil-Faw1ty on
Sadly, it’s the only way to guarantee security and not getting attacked.
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That’s a huge statement if true. Poland has always felt squeezed between Russia and Germany and with the current situation I can see why they’d want their own deterrent. Still the idea of more nuclear states in Europe is unsettling. Hope diplomacy catches up before things escalate further.
Any country that doesn’t want to be invaded by a greater power needs nuclear weapons
Look at Ukraine, Libya, and now Iran
The only reason America doesn’t **** with Kim Jong Un is because they actually have nukes
Finally some good news.
If I’m not mistaken, this isn’t the first time Poland has said that. I think it’s mainly about applying pressure rather than a genuine intention to acquire nuclear weapons
Looking at the history of Poland, its hardly surprising.
Never going to happen.
I’d be shocked if either France or the US wants a country like Poland to have nuclear weapons. Global hegemony is more important for them even at the expense of small countries. I don’t even say that as a criticism. I would have the same belief if I were French or American.
I always strongly approved polish nukes but there are 2 very major problems:
1) Poland doesn’t even have a single nuclear power plant, it will take decades to build own nukes unless someone shares tech(not likely)
2) USA may threaten to make sanctions so politicians will withdraw this idea
I still can’t believe that Tusk wants Poland to have nukes
can’t these dinosaurs fucking extinct I just want to live in peace but these old farts only want war and touch kids
I got downvoted for saying that this Iran and Ukraine stories will just make it much more common that countries will want nukes, AND that there won’t be a way to negotiate them out of this.
Unfortunately this makes our world a lot less safe. All it takes is one regime to throw a nuke at someone and literal hell will break loose on all of us.
I do understand why some countries will try to pursue this
Having nukes and no nuclear submarine is useless if they want to be credible, that is why countries like Poland will never ever be able to assume such a high cost that it is financial and diplomatic .
And good luck getting much needed data from nuclear explosion only China, Iran and North Korea still does that….
They’ll make enriched coal bombs to utilize power plants’ potential /s
Jokes aside, boasting about it sounds stupid – if they get one and the world allows them, it’ll seriously undermine NPT and next Cambodia (half Poland’s population)-Thailand (1.5 Poland’s population) conflict can end up with nuclear warheads used. If they don’t get one it’d be just bad rep. Though politicians usually don’t care about such things.
Honestly, joining France’s umbrella would be best provided France is actually ready to use them and have defined protocol that would give Poland clear scenarios where it is and isn’t going to be used.
Unpopular opinion: nuclear proliferation is bad
Thanks to Obama and his successors now everyone will want nukes and I think everyone should obtain it. Nukes is the only real security guarantee
The moment Russia invaded Ukraine it became likely that medium-sized states would seek nuclear weapons. The moment the US signalled that it was opting out of leading role in global security it became inevitable.
How does Poland finance that after their announced enormous military buildup?
How do they get the knowhow? So far Poland isn’t operating just a single nuclear power plant and just one (aging) research reactor which is focusing on medical and some industrial research.
Let me know if you find any
more eu countries need nukes. poland can have some but germany and maybe spain or italy should also get some. right now we are dependend on france to secure the eu and it would only take a single averse goverment there to take back the nuclear shield.
Better do it now before Russia has a claim to it being “an existential threat next to their borders”, as an excuse for – and I can’t believe I have to say these words combined in 2026 – annexing Poland.
Err have you looked at Iran right now whether or you are looking at getting nuclear weapons I don’t think you should be saying it out loud
Why is Iran being attacked right now?
Sure thing, as soon as we finish that nuclear plant we’ve been planning to build since, checks notes, 1980s.
[Also the full quote according to PAP is](https://www.polskieradio.pl/399/7975/Artykul/3655293,premier-polska-nie-chce-byc-pasywna-ws-bezpieczenstwa-nuklearnego-w-kontekscie-militarnym)
> Polska nie będzie chciała być pasywna, jeśli chodzi także o bezpieczeństwo nuklearne w kontekście militarnym – stwierdził premier. – Będziemy współpracowali z naszymi sojusznikami, w tym z Francją, która wyszła z tą konkretną ofertą, i wraz ze wzrostem własnych, naszych autonomicznych możliwości, będziemy także starali się przygotować Polskę w przyszłości do jak najbardziej autonomicznych działań w tej kwestii – zadeklarował szef rządu.
I wouldn’t say that “in the future we will try to prepare Poland to as autonomous actions as possible in this matter” is exactly a breaking news material. Looks like typical Tusk – saying a lot without saying anything specific in a way that allows everybody to hear what they want to hear. It might be warheads, it might be rockets, it might not be anything and wil lstill be technically correct.
That’s easy to say but realistically difficult to do. Poland has no reactors, no enrichment capability and no history in the area. It would be a long, hard and expensive slog to do it…and realistically without testing it probably would not be possible to make weapons that are worth having, which means a huge political battle, especially if they choose to test in Europe.
Having nukes doesn’t mean anything if you can’t deploy them and the only realistic deterrent is a submarine force.
French FOST (Force Océanique Stratégique) is the bare minimum and it costs around 13% of France’s defense budget which would be a +20% minimum added on top of Poland’s budget.
And even then : Where do you put the Subs ? I’m pretty sure that the Baltic is the worst ever sea to have heavy subs with nukes. And I’m not even talking about Kaliningrad and the impossibility of sub dilution.
Just make a joint tactical nuke program in nato everyone chips in
Along with every country in the world thanks to Trump and Bibi.
This does raise an interesting question. How can the international community address nuclear proliferation in a situation where the usual method of sanctions is unworkable (in this case due to the nature of the EU where it’s not really possible to sanction one individual country)
if Poland can have nukes I want one as well
If tusk said this , don t worry 🤣
I don’t blame them. However i’m increasingly convinced that we’ll see a nuclear warhead dropped on a country in my lifetime. It’s crazy how stupid people have been used to destroy the post ww-2 order, they won’t even self reflect either
God I hope not, not until we figure out the proper power split between the army, the President and the Prime Minister. Right now the President can just troll everyone (and Nawrocki does) for political theatre.
Also let’s figure out nuclear power first.
While I would have preferred a world without nuclear weapons, that is simply not reality and it only makes sense to find a way to acquire them in some shape or form for deterrence when countries like Russia, China, North Korea and United States have them
So he’s going to steal some from Russia?
Kurwa nuke.
90% of this madness can be laid directly at the feet of America and its lunatic leadership. They couldn’t do more harm in the world if harm was their only goal. Maybe it is.
Poland is easily 20 years away from producing its own plutonium. It also signed up the treaty of non proliferation of nuclear weapons. Withdrawal would lead to a backlash from the EU, the US, political sanctions, NATO complications. Whether it’s Trump or the next US president, they wouldn’t allow it.
Let’s be honest here, Poland is a US lapdog. I doubt Polish politicians will ever dare to risk this.
But then Israel and the US will have the right to bomb them, including children attending elementary school. And they must be subject to decades of sanctions. And the EU will have to blindly support the US and Israel. Right? Right? That’s what we are doing today to Iran.
Sadly, it’s the only way to guarantee security and not getting attacked.