Nah, I’m good. No need for a new master whose boot to lick, got plenty of those already.
EU has been working okayish in some parts, but not all of it has been fine and dandy. I feel like our country could use some more help from the EU, but I doubt we’re going to get it.
VoihanVieteri on
Depends what it means. What would be the difference to the union we have right now? The question is quite ambiquous.
tehwagn3r on
We’ll have to.
Arctovigil on
If we want our current political malaise to end we will have to do it or we lose.
DrawingAlarming7350 on
sure
drunk_finngolian on
oh hell no
xYarbx on
Absolutely no, not going to become vassal state of Germany and France. Because thats what it would be since they are the most populous countries and would get majority vote.
hikingmaterial on
As a finn? never.
a small culturally non expansive country like finland wont survive long as a coherent culture in the long run, in any great power dominated federation like this would be.
we have little incentive to do so, when we have taken care of your military institution and have defencible land. that, and a tiny language nobody speaks.
Etalier on
I dont think it possible within our lifetimes, but personally I’d vote for yes. It would have downsides due to being periphery, but the more united Europe is the stronger we are as a whole.
kebusebu on
Never
Ok_Hamster8338 on
If we would be federal, we would be bigger than:
US = in population
China = in economy
Russia = in everything
If US can make it do with federalisation, should we also think about it?
ahma-tti on
I wonder how many russki bots or putins pigs are here saying no
DangerStrangerTheII on
It’s eventually going to be a necessary evil to compete with US, Chinese or Russian hegemony, not to mention a hypothetical superpower that might materialize once the global south gains full control of their economies and resources.
They will NOT be treating a fragmented europe nicely, let’s put it that way.
PasAle99 on
Really hope it happens and Finland is in it
TimsFallingAdventure on
absolutely not, we fought to keep our independence 80 years ago, we aren’t going to become a part of a federation now.
Grilled_egs on
In theory it sounds appealing, but then looking at the state of the EU and just how bad German, and to a lesser extent French, politics are, it starts to look like a much worse idea. When it comes to standing up to the US and China an economic block with a defense agreement is sufficient, I honestly think on some aspects the EU is already too united eg. surveillance.
AhmedAlSayef on
Europe is too broad of a concept for federalization. It works in the US because they didn’t have hundreds of years worth of cultural evolution (and they did purge natives).
I do support the federal Nordic Union, though. We have a lot more in common than with the France for example. I think that it would be a big enough union for us to compete in the bigger picture.
Correct-Fly-1126 on
Nordic union💪💪💪
vjollila96 on
Fuck no
Salt-Composer-1472 on
We need to be able to decide things for ourselves. Common good is good and the same rules for everybody which prevents any corrupt government’s from entirely steamrolling over its people (which is certainly an issue now with the example of Hungary) but we can’t have some other country or countries dictating things or driving their own benefits over us and claiming that something that’s bad for us is not actually bad because they say so. And then there’s nothing we can do about it. There must be some other ways to unify and simplify decision-making that doesn’t involve making a federal Europe.
shammyboii on
Every naysayer basically wants to be either russian, american or chinese idk what else to say. I do know actually, bots of those countires the bunch of them, including OP
RoidMD on
Assuming we’d get a proper constitution that clearly defines what powers belong to the federation and what powers to the states, I’d say yes. We would be a global superpower. Currently we’re a quasi-federation that has it’s hands tied behind its back.
Marrasuhri on
I highly doubt it’ll happen in my lifetime.
Not exactly thrilled about a lot of factions in the EU to begin with.
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no
Yes, let’s gooo
Needed more than ever before
Nah, I’m good. No need for a new master whose boot to lick, got plenty of those already.
EU has been working okayish in some parts, but not all of it has been fine and dandy. I feel like our country could use some more help from the EU, but I doubt we’re going to get it.
Depends what it means. What would be the difference to the union we have right now? The question is quite ambiquous.
We’ll have to.
If we want our current political malaise to end we will have to do it or we lose.
sure
oh hell no
Absolutely no, not going to become vassal state of Germany and France. Because thats what it would be since they are the most populous countries and would get majority vote.
As a finn? never.
a small culturally non expansive country like finland wont survive long as a coherent culture in the long run, in any great power dominated federation like this would be.
we have little incentive to do so, when we have taken care of your military institution and have defencible land. that, and a tiny language nobody speaks.
I dont think it possible within our lifetimes, but personally I’d vote for yes. It would have downsides due to being periphery, but the more united Europe is the stronger we are as a whole.
Never
If we would be federal, we would be bigger than:
US = in population
China = in economy
Russia = in everything
If US can make it do with federalisation, should we also think about it?
I wonder how many russki bots or putins pigs are here saying no
It’s eventually going to be a necessary evil to compete with US, Chinese or Russian hegemony, not to mention a hypothetical superpower that might materialize once the global south gains full control of their economies and resources.
They will NOT be treating a fragmented europe nicely, let’s put it that way.
Really hope it happens and Finland is in it
absolutely not, we fought to keep our independence 80 years ago, we aren’t going to become a part of a federation now.
In theory it sounds appealing, but then looking at the state of the EU and just how bad German, and to a lesser extent French, politics are, it starts to look like a much worse idea. When it comes to standing up to the US and China an economic block with a defense agreement is sufficient, I honestly think on some aspects the EU is already too united eg. surveillance.
Europe is too broad of a concept for federalization. It works in the US because they didn’t have hundreds of years worth of cultural evolution (and they did purge natives).
I do support the federal Nordic Union, though. We have a lot more in common than with the France for example. I think that it would be a big enough union for us to compete in the bigger picture.
Nordic union💪💪💪
Fuck no
We need to be able to decide things for ourselves. Common good is good and the same rules for everybody which prevents any corrupt government’s from entirely steamrolling over its people (which is certainly an issue now with the example of Hungary) but we can’t have some other country or countries dictating things or driving their own benefits over us and claiming that something that’s bad for us is not actually bad because they say so. And then there’s nothing we can do about it. There must be some other ways to unify and simplify decision-making that doesn’t involve making a federal Europe.
Every naysayer basically wants to be either russian, american or chinese idk what else to say. I do know actually, bots of those countires the bunch of them, including OP
Assuming we’d get a proper constitution that clearly defines what powers belong to the federation and what powers to the states, I’d say yes. We would be a global superpower. Currently we’re a quasi-federation that has it’s hands tied behind its back.
I highly doubt it’ll happen in my lifetime.
Not exactly thrilled about a lot of factions in the EU to begin with.
Yes.