Not the Greeks, who literally had to revive their Hellenic identity in 19. Century and stop viewing it as a paganistic foreign culture claiming Turks are actually Greeks who lost their identity. Take a look at the mirror. Your own ancestors came to Anatolia and helenised it. You are not more native to the land than the Turks who are supposedly Greek, Kurdish, Armenian etc. Mix. But hey, let’s do it your way and consider maybe the Turks are really just confused Greeks at the end of the day, this means they literally have more say in the legacy created by their ancestors, Anatolian Greeks, compared to Hellas Greeks, right?…
But that’s simply not the case, as the Greeks, in literal sense of the word, burned all of their connection with anatolia and its heritage, came from other side of the aegean to invade and massacre their “confused brothers” like they did in Crete, Chios and attempted in Cyprus… failed, and escaped back to seafare land where they came from. But don’t forget to set the entire aegean coast to fire. Destroyed many of the great cities, their supposed heritage in process and begged for a population exchange to Turks. Taking their last population in Anatolia away as they thought Greeks must live in Greece and Turks must stay in Turkey.
I am not gonna sugarcoat it. The so-called Greek heritage and home you are trying to claim belongs to Turks, as it is literally created by Turks. Turks did all the hard work, Turks rebuilt the cities the Greek army destroyed. Entire towns got replaced. All the stones, nails and windows you see today were put there by the Turks. Modern Manisa and the ancient city of Magnesia have nothing in common other than the name they got from standing in the same place. İstanbul is no longer Constantinople and you are also aware of this as you literally have to explain and point it out in the comments. The west of Turkey couldn’t be what it is today without the Turks who made it, as even your Byzantine overlords ignored and abused it for centuries. There is a reason for Ottomans success in Asia minor at the end of the day. Claim what you want for them but in the end they took the torn down capital of a dying empire and made it the jewel of their own.
So let me get this straight. The city got pillaged, several times even. massacred, died from plague, burned down and had to fight to survive while it was in your responsibility. While it got rebuilt, invested and couldn’t even be taken by empires like the British that are known to oppress and colonise the majority of THE WORLD? The Turks, while in their own stage of a dying empire, literally did a lot better job at defending it than you did? Damn…
And that’s the point, you can claim it is a bad thing or try to distort it to be something negative. But at the end of the day Turks own the place, they call it home. They don’t see themselves as foreign or try to erase the fact that it was used to be yours, they accept and embrace that part of the history and all the ancient greek statues and mosaics they find are a result of this acceptance. They don’t simply find those random artifacts while digging holes to do their Turkish stuff. They are results of archeological digs and expeditions and desire to put those stuff to a museum and protect it. Turks are fully aware of the fact that how ancient and beautiful their home is. as if it wasn’t it wouldn’t be this much fought over it. Many civilizations called it home and made it their own, Hittites, Lydians, Assyrians, Romans, Arabs, Armenians, the actual Mongols… and now it is the Turks turn.
But you’re essentially doing something a nation who supposedly spent centuries being oppressed by others and almost lost its culture and identity should never do:Make your so-called oppressors think they are doing something bad by protecting and conserving your heritage.
What should Turks do if finding pieces of your history and revealing it is not as awesome and interesting as they think, but an argument against their existence as you try to claim? Again look at the mirror and think what your country did during its de-ottomanisation period for they thought the existence of Turks past was a threat to them. That if they had to have a say in their home they had to erase the fact that it belonged to turks for centuries in past
I’ll give the answer, same thing your invader forces did in Turkey, burning every bit of it to the ground.
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No one cares about griggers chimping out on twitter lmao.
Imagine Italians complaining about every Roman find in France or England. It is basically the same:
* Greek-Roman invaders came and assimilated the local population (Celts, Phyrigians, etc.)
* They then got assimilated by a new culture (Franks, Saxons, Turks)
When ı say they destroyed every bit of claim right they had on Turkey I’m not exaggerating
They destroyed everyting, straight up
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Womp womp stop paying taxes to Brussels
Greeks are village people. They are Roman of Hellenic origin. The civilization is Roman. That is a common heritage. Diminishing it to “Greek” is stupid.
Typical Greek propaganda account.
Whatever we dig, it doesn’t come up Greek. Göbekletepe, Hittites, Sumerians, none of those remainings are Greek. We inherited them from past civilizations.
Stonehenge is not built by English people.
Pyramids are not built by Arabs.
Acropolis is not built by modern Greeks (imagine Pontic Greeks….)
Aztec temples are not built by Mexicans.
Modern populations inherit them from past civilizations. Those Greek / Roman statues or amphitheaters are all across middle east and are even in North Africa. Are they going to claim them too?
Have they seen Palmyra in Syria? Do Greeks also claim Syria belongs to Greece?
That’s why it’s a pure BS.
It’s Anatolian land liberated from Greek oppressors.
“Merciless verdict” lol as if it’s such a big secret. There’s no denying that Turkey has a Greek heritage and I think it should be preserved.
But that’s about it, that all happened almost a millennium ago where the world was still being shaped by conquests.
Good, add it to The Museum of Anatolian Civilizations.
This is Anatolian Heritage, people of most ancient cities in Anatolia were of Anatolian origin, not Greek but Phrygian, Galatian, Luvia and so on.
Those lands were promised to Byzantium 3000 years ago
History is just that, history. It tells a story and that should be preserved, as a story. Today will be a story someday also.
Greeks are still crying about all this as if we are the only nation in the world who conquered land from another culture. Anatolia got conquered hundreds of years ago and they couldn’t retake it. End of story. It’s such a pointless arguement at this day and age yet we always get the bad guy treatment over it.
They can cry in their echo chamber all they want, at the end of the day it’s utterly pointless.
I had the opportunity to talk and analyze with many foreign people around the world. The Mediterranean people (Italians and Spaniards) were warm-hearted, Americans were unaware of many things and relaxed, while Greeks had become quite inferior complexed and racist. Every time, they kept talking about Hagia Sophia, Byzantium, or ‘being invaded,’ and it’s like this everywhere without exception. Most Balkan nations really have a lot of xenophobia and an inferiority complex.
I am in favour of everyone who was deported (population exchange) from turkey to have the right to get citizenship.
But those who left these lands behind to pursue independece may have their independece from these lands.
Is it new and can we visit? I like the sculptures of that era. Where is it? as in “il” or city
territory rules by force. so we own it.
They learn in school that they are natives people of Anatolia. The reason is that the facts are the opposite of what they seem to offer. The same goes for Europe and America. That’s why propaganda is important to them.