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    1. For the record: Liberals are not the left.

      Especially not (most) American Democrats.

    2. FCKABRNLSUTN2 on

      I’m not a centrist that usually only attacks democrats, says both sides are the same, and doesn’t vote.

      I’m a *leftist* tha usually only attacks democrats, says both sides are the same, and doesn’t vote. Totally different.

    3. Progressives: Pissing my vote away on Jill Stein, not opposing Trump in any form, and allowing the country to slide further to the right will certainly bring about universal healthcare and get rid of student debt.

    4. The US doesn’t have a left wing. It has two right wing parties that are an abuser and an enabler.

      News flash: Bernie Sanders lost the primary because actual leftist policies are not what Democrat politicians want. You might see a dozen democrats on TV saying we need better wages and higher corporate tax rates, but the other 200 are just silently refusing to vote for that stuff.

    5. KingScoville on

      Gotta love these leftists circle jerk posts.

      The real meme would be

      Leftists: Withhold my support until Centrists cave to my unworkable and upopular polices

      Centrists: Use the tools available to me to get the greatest amount of harm reduction/prevention.

      Right Wing: Whatever the rich tell me to do.

    6. Candle-Jolly on

      Just today I commented on Joanne Jorgensen’s FB profile (yes, *that* Joanne Jorgensen), asking if she felt regret over supporting Trump/Republicans even though she claims to be a Libertarian.

      A commentor who claims to be a Centralist replied instead saying “I’m just viewing Trump through a biased viewpoint.”

      It’s like well fuck yeah I’m “viewing him through a biased viewpoint!” He fucking started a war, is all over the Epstein files, has been legally documented for multiple times for corruption (including 34 felony counts), was found guilty of libel for sexual assault, and I’m not even going to get started about the racism/sexism/bigotry…

    7. KennyShowers on

      I think people confuse “centrists” with “undecideds,” or at least choose to use the word centrist in a totally incorrect way.

      An actual centrist, as in somebody with moderate political ideals not in the far right or far left, is exactly at home with the modern Democratic party, and they are the people who reliably vote Democrat.

      Somebody who can’t tell the difference between straightforward logical policies and batshit crazy rightwing insanity is not a centrist. They’re a moron.

    8. DarkArmyLieutenant on

      The entire establishment portion of the Democratic Party are centrists. It is beyond maddening.

    9. Purity leftists: I don’t care if the right wins, all three of these groups are the same to me

    10. The “can’t tell the two apart” refers to zealots of both sides – meaning, “if you don’t fully support EVERYTHING we say you’re wrong and a centrist! You cannot use objectivity and reason to determine a truth or facts. You cannot question the internet sides of said ideology.”

      Um. Ok. I’ve made it this far, in life, without a puppet master. I’ll continue to do just fine without your similar tenets of your crazy religion.

      Also, “left wing” progressives (in today’s understanding and acceptance) aren’t that liberal. Many, unfortunately, are just confused hopeless youths that haven’t dealt with many blows like weathered, old school liberals and democrats. What else can I say? Life is anything but easy and fair. In order for change, you have to win elections and then continually punch back at right wing crazies. Most “centrists” want to “make sure everyone’s needs are met.” They’re just not delusional enough to think “we’re gonna make sure everyone’s…” gonna do much more than cry on the internet and wear pussy hats.

      Goddamn. This is why being a real liberal/democrat it’s actually a real thing) is so hard to be in the 21st century. Liberals are so damned confused and all over the map.

    11. GoonerBear94 on

      Left: The government is there to help you when you need help.

      Right: The government is only there to rule you and enrich me.

      Centrist: You’re literally the same.

    12. Perfect_Base_3989 on

      Centrism is a negative position that’s about pumping the breaks. At its best, it’s a kind of rational “I’d prefer not to, for the time being”.

      #Enlightened Centrists

      are just Ron Paul libertarians.

    13. TheOnceAndFutureDoug on

      American Left: I’d rather we give every child food just to make sure the ones who need it get it.

      American Right: I’d rather we risk not giving a child the food they need if it means accidentally giving food to a kid who didn’t need it.

      American Centrists: These are both legitimate perspectives of equal moral value.

    14. This is a very disingenuous meme. I would say shockingly disingenuous but that would be a lie in itself because nothing on Reddit is shocking.

    15. I’ll have you know the left-wing is more than comfortable with exterminating entire social groups because they’re evil (and impure if depending on who’s doing the exterminating).

    16. the_hair_of_aenarion on

      Centrist is a term right wingers have adopted to hide who they are. Real centrists would not agree with current extremes but may be much more conservative that most left wingers. The “they’re both as bad as each other” argument is horseshit. That’s a fake centrist.

    17. I don’t buy the idea that “centrists” exist. There’s three categories:

      1) Republican-lite, who didn’t realize the were part of the problem and now vote for the obvious lesser evil democrats (the rarest of this list)

      2) The “both sides are bad” crowd, which is just people who vote Republican but have made peace with the reality that their views and reasoning are indefensible, so the just lump both sides together believing it’s moral cover for being awful (not actually centrist)

      3) People who are horrified by Trump and vow to never vote for him again, but will either sit out elections or vote third party, but we all know they’ll just vote for the next racist asshole frontrunner of the Republican Party ((also not centrist, and by far the most common of these)

    18. Hey leftists. You wanna dunk on centrists? How about you fuckin show up to vote!

      Because the only thing dumber than “I can’t tell them apart” is “I’ll let the nazis win to teach everyone a lesson!”

      And both times Trump won, that is exactly how it happened. The left didn’t show the fuck up.

    19. Meet “far centrist” (like Macron in France): we can’t tell you apart but “in the mean time, we like our billionaires, so you, people will have to pay”

    20. This a masturbatory post aimed at a fairly dominating progressive audience on Reddit. Americans progressives, at least on Reddit, really don’t seem to understand conservatism and because of that they have no ability to understand moderates. Progressivism just doesn’t have the framework to build a society on, you need personal responsibility, family values etc. Classic burkean conservative values and then improve upon it with liberal values – you need both.

      The extremes are a different matter, MAGA and the progressives both want to destroy and rebuild and they have their own vision on how to do that. But it’s worth bearing in mind that it’s easier to convince people to support a system that has already existed with some level of stability and success rather than some illusory vision that only exists in some high minded people’s imaginations.

    21. This also sounds like my extreme left friends not seeing any difference between Republicans and Democrats. I’ll be the first to admit they are corrupt on much of the same levels. But you have to be intentionally not looking to see how different they are.

    22. shit_mcballs on

      reddit loves to attack strawmen and demographics that don’t exist in any threatening amount, like flat earthers.

      Those arent centrists ffs those are nihilists and apathetic people. Knock that shit off.