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    Police accused of ‘overreach’ after ‘from the river to the sea’ arrests

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    1. Electrical_Age_7483 on

      Woman gets arrested for what she wore, and people are wondering if it’s overreach?

    4. NDISwhisperer on

      Anyone who opposes free speech – this is where it gets you.

      A functioning free society needs all views to be expressed freely – good ideas will defeat bad ideas through rigorous debate… not through giving the government the power to decide between what is a good idea and a bad idea.

    5. SushiJesus on

      The job of the police is law enforcement, its not their fault if the law sucks or if they are unclear.

      They’re just trying to do their job… if you have a problem with this blame the government, its their legislation

    6. ThirdEy3 on

      hypothetically if you said from the river to the ocean would it still count as hate speech

    7. yellowboat on

      Everyone wants to tinker with “free” speech and this is what happens. Start supporting people who say things you don’t like or it’ll only get worse.

      Even the laws against “nazis” have failed miserably because collectors and old angry blokes mocking seccys got caught up in the “hate speech” frenzy. Meanwhile the real nazis just avoid specific gestures and symbols but keep on spreading their hate.

      Until people learn to recognise that there will always be fuckwits, you can’t have a free democratic society where you’re never confronted with fuckwits, and to not get worked up over the opinions of fuckwits… this will just keep happening. Have to draw a line in the sand on free expression and stick to it or it’ll never end.

      [Jesse Pinkman, “hate criminal”](https://youtu.be/Sku4_2WHUcw)

    8. sxjthefirst on

      I want to get a tee that says

      Queensland

      From Tweed River

      To Arafura Sea

      Some words will be in a bigger font than others

    9. SocietyHumble4858 on

      Is the other direction okay? Does From the sea to the river pass the mustard test? It flows off the tongue a bit smoother.

    10. InsertChoiceOfName on

      Meh.

      People wanted this. They just didn’t want it used against their particular causes.

      We, general citizens, lost control of our government long ago.

      People talk about free speech like we ever had it. Its insane. Just because they never put a boot on your neck before, doesn’t mean you had any rights to say it. You were just tolerated.

    14. Ornery-Ad-7261 on

      The LNP appears to view the freedom of speech as a tradable commodity. It’s a very slippery slope from here to authoritanism.

    16. titanmongoose on

      I truly believe the average Aussie just doesn’t care. How many times have the government engaged in obvious corruption or overreaching into people’s lives and the Australian public has just rolled over? It’s like a dog who barks behind the fence but cowers when the gate flies open. Why wouldn’t they pass these hate speech laws? We’ve taught them they can get away with it haven’t we?

    17. SirSweatALot_5 on

      🤯🤣🙈

      ahhh the good old hypocrisy… the good old double standard.

      While the protesters are facing jailtime for wanting LESS PEOPLE to DIE.

      A racist fuck in Ballarat walks into a ramadan dinner throwing punches and shouting:
      “He was saying, ‘f*** Allah, f*** Islam, death to Allah'”

      Victoria Police DID NOT arrest the alleged attacker at the scene, instead asking him “to move on”.

      I guess old mate in Victoria was just not hateful enough 🤣

    18. Espio1912 on

      I’m getting a little worried about our national anthem, apparently we are “girt by sea”. Can we still sing out loud?

    19. MycologistSharp4337 on

      Not accused. Just overreached. It’s ok to present facts. You don’t need to hide behind quotes from other people. The laws are dumb and mean that police resources are wasted on people presenting no harm or risk to QLD community at the expense of policing people that do, that are committing actual crimes and presenting real risks. Mind blowing stupidity from the QLD premier.

    20. OrbitalHangover on

      How is the law applied – like can OP be charged for using it in the title here?

    22. RabidIndividualist on

      Ah so NOW they’re upset about government infringing on people’s right to express themselves. Amazing.

    23. Riku1186 on

      Wonder if the Human Rights Act will come into play, as this seems like a curtail of the freedom of expression, and as far as I can tell, they didn’t override it when they enact these laws. *Brilliant move Labor, making a bill of rights and writing in the government can override it when they want, what’s the fucking point?*

    28. BlackCaaaaat on

      Good! It’s fucked. I can’t say those two phrases, but saying Nazi phrases like the two-word one everyone knows doesn’t attract the same penalties. You know, top-level anti-Semitic phrases.

      I’m not Jewish, but my family were persecuted by the Nazis. They either spent long periods on the run (including my grandmother who was just a teenager) or long periods in concentration camps. And yet someone could say one of those phrases to me and not receive the same punishment. This is absolutely ridiculous.

    29. maycontainsultanas on

      It’s not really a police overreach. They don’t write the laws. They just enforce them. Your elected officials wanted this, blame them.

    30. agitator12 on

      Using poorly trained Cops to enforce ill-conceived laws on behalf of Zionist Israelis. What could go wrong…

    33. RedOx103 on

      Absolutely nothing better for Qld parliament and police to be spending their time on.

      And now the courts. What if someone says “from the sea to the river?” What if they use the phrase to protest environmental consequences, but wearing a hijab? What if they make reference to the phrase in protest of said law? What is someone broadcasts a Zionist saying the same thing?

    35. SlimlineVan on

      And here we have the nub of the issue as recently struck down in the UK (who pulled this shit first in their crack down on pro-Palestine movement).

      Legislating words out of coinage can be relatively easy. Legislating meaning is hard. How do you legislate against human expression?

      To wit: QLD govt bans phrase ‘globalise the intifada’, however, you can still say ‘globalise the Arab uprising’

      Which one of the words holds the meaning?