The Nationalrat is debating a SVP motion that seeks to relax doctors’ duty of confidentiality in the workplace. The aim is to reduce the length of absences due to illness or accidents. The proposal is controversial.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/vorstoss-im-nationalrat-soll-die-arbeitsplatzbezogene-schweigepflicht-gelockert-werden

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  1. MalcadorPrime on

    Fuck that. If im sick i stay home, my boss doesnt need to know more than that.

  2. Hell nah aute. Jedesmau, wenn i denke d SVP cha nid no schlimmer werde, chöme sie mit der nöchste Katastrophe

  3. Transparency for you, not for me.

    Let’s see the payments from the Russian governments/lobbies to SVP members and discuss how they impact their employment. Let’s start with the initiative committee of the neutrality initiative.

  4. BezugssystemCH1903 on

    While we’re on the subject of transparency, here’s what I like to see:

    – Disclosure of politicians’ days off + reasons
    – Public access to mandates and any financial subsidies
    – Criminal record extracts from Gaga-Far-Right Extremist Glarner and co.

    And, of course, their medical records too – after all, we, the people, are the ones who employ them.

  5. At some point I will just go to the doctor for every tiny thing to get sick notes out of spite.

    The vast majority of people want to return to work as fast as possible and want to be healthy. But as always SVP tries to force bad laws on everyone.

    And once again it is professional heiress Diana Gutjahr. First the raise of the Mindestfranchise now this.

  6. It is sad how I can reject anything from SVP immediately. Why sad? Because even if the “slogan” has merit, has something I could agree with (not in this case though), I KNOW for sure if I dig into it, it’s always something that benefits the few and not the public.

    Every.single.time.

    In this case: Yes let’s go to work sick, coughing, sneezing etc. Spread the joy so all can participate…

  7. Natürlich fragt man sich nicht, warum die Arbeiter länger krank sind.

    Man fragt sich was man tun kann um sie noch mehr zu ficken.

  8. JollyQuiscalus on

    >Die ärztliche Schweigepflicht soll auf den Arbeitsplatz bezogen aufgelockert werden. «Nicht um die Diagnose zu kennen», wie Gutjahr gegenüber SRF betont, sondern «um zu erfahren, welche Tätigkeit wieder gemacht werden kann und welche nicht».

    Salami tactics.

  9. Shinjischneider on

    Of course SVP and FDP have to, AGAIN, jump on the “everybody who’s sick is actually lazy and privacy is a thing that should only exist for companies, rich people and politicians”-Train.
    Especially after trying to raise the minimum franchise (and luckily failing in Aargau to reduce social wellfare).

    I am so fucking sick of hearing rich people who often don’t even have proper jobs (Verwaltungsrat is no job. It’s being paid for farting in your chair) while getting paid by our taxes and often miss a lot of their own meetings talk about how everybody else was lazy and how someone who can’t work is a parasite to society…..

    And even more sick of people falling for that crap

  10. GingerPrince72 on

    Biggest party in Switzerland right there, amazing so many people vote for them.

    Quite depressing.

  11. Sufficient-History71 on

    Where are those tax evaders or wannabe tax evaders who call SVP the party of freedom because less taxes?

  12. AmbitiousFinger6359 on

    It’s a lame excuse to help Insurance lobby again. They can very easily monitor doctors abusing of sick leave certificate by using metrics like other countries do.

  13. white-tealeaf on

    Are they copying Merz? 
    Fighting the economic malaise caused by them through forcing sick workers to work.
    From the article there is about 70 billion increase in cost through sickness (likely caused by covid and older workforce). Forcing them to come in sick this would increase GDP by about 0.07%!

    Thank you for this amazing economic policy! Surely there is no more efficient use of the 12 weeks parliament is in session!

    Also if Orban would do this, media would report it as another step towards the dissolution of civil liberties and a way for him and his cronies to target unwanted people. But when SVP does it it’s just a normal thing.

  14. Sad_Discipline_7614 on

    Reminder: the SVP was against having to disclose their income sources while holding a political position.

    Be a good person and never vote for this horrible party.

  15. There needs to be a tool for employers to check on and reign in people who use the system to their benefit, but I’m not sure if this is the right tool.

  16. Nice work from the super independent SRF, truncating the graph to match the narrative of the Schweizerische Vollidioten Partei and the graph title (“Die Zahl der Krankheitstage nimmt zu”) by starting the y-axis at 3 instead of 0, the article creates a visual “cliff”. The use of the term *”Gefälligkeitsgutachten”* (courtesy certificates) is also disgusting. This subtly implies that the rise in sick days is due to “laziness” or “dishonest doctors,” rather than factors like an aging workforce, mental health crises (burnout), or the aftermath of a pandemic.

    Journalistically, the piece looks like it provides “balance” by quoting both Diana Gutjahr (pro-motion) and Yvonne Gilli (anti-motion). However, the framing is slightly tilted, Gutjahr’s argument is framed as practical and anti-bureaucratic, entrepreneurial… (and even uses the favorite word for the Stupid Voters Party, “Bureaucracy Monster”. The counter-argument is framed as legalistic and “statu-quo”.

    And of course, why bothering investigating the WHY the numbers are rising? Is it the rise of psychological illnesses in the modern workplace? Is it the aging workforce? Don’t care, let’s better frame the workers as someone to be monitored rather than a patient to be healed.

    It presents a complex public health and labor rights issue primarily as a “cost-leak” that needs to be plugged by reducing worker privacy.

  17. When I overhear the colleagues in the coffe area “to just call in sick to not waste a vacation day” then I think they have a valid point. Even if the majority of commenters here dislike the motion, it’s not without a reason. It’s once again a small portion of people ruining it for everyone else by abusing the system…

  18. Pure-Razzmatazz5274 on

    Oh come on. Worker protection for sickness is already pretty much nonexistent, your employer can just fire you if they think you are sick too much (they just can’t claim as much). This is so ludicrous and really dragging attention away from important issues.