>Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.
>- Joseph Stalin
It has been ever thus in Mother Russia. Nothing has changed.
NOVA-peddling-1138 on
That was after 1990 and Putin was laying low. This is interesting as I have never ever heard of Tatarstan and only somewhat familiar with Tatars connected with Crimea and Dagestan. Thank you. I need to learn more on that republic.
Successful_Brush_972 on
Like in Catalonia?
LockNo2943 on
I mean, it brings up an interesting point that sovereignty ultimately can’t be granted by vote.
Snake_Plizken on
Why would they? Russia is fascist. Still better of than Chechnya.
Perkunas999 on
And how are things on your end? When are you going to recognize Catalonia’s referendums?
Lakedo on
Before you start saying russia bad (which it is) look up Spain and Catalonia and that was very recent…
Skell2095 on
Britain did vote for leaving EU and went through with it, but I don’t think they had much good from it. Tatarstan is not just landlocked, it is an enclave inside Russia with a good degree of autonomy even now (by Russian measures). Even if it was to leave Russia, how was it supposed to survive? On the spirit of democracy alone?
cobrakai1975 on
Russia should be dissolved and people should be free from its oppression
Anxious-Bite-2375 on
All u need to know about Russian referendums.
Heroyem on
Dissolve the Russian Federation like the USSR
Im_Not_A_Plant on
Russia being a “prison of peoples”, as Lenin called it, still rings true more than a hundred years later.
unNecessary_Skin on
Why is th picture black and white?
LOL
SKRyanrr on
Surprise surprise
Arcanikum on
And now their language is banned from learning in schools. Dead nation destroyed in every possible way by russia.
RavenSorkvild on
This wasnt really a treaty about independence but more of about the special autonomy status for Tatarstan, something like with Chechnya. Tatarstan get the right to its own independent foreign policy, foreign economic relations, own military service and constitution. Not everything was implemented; Tatarstan made many compromises, but its special status remained in effect until Putin began the process of centralization, as a result of which Tatarstan ultimately lost all traces of autonomy by 2017 (on paper, in fact it happened about a decade before).
Currently, local and regional authorities have only marginal control in Russia. Since the last “reform,” even elections for local officials was abolished and local authorities are appointed by the Kremlin.
capdelka on
Chronically online people in comments whimpering about dissolving Russia can see absolutely no correlation between this and same referendums In Crimea or Donbass (which are suddenly super wrong and Russia is fascist again, not like it’s exactly same situation flipped 180 degrees lmao) genuinely what’s wrong with these people and their hate towards Russia, give them any situation where Russia is ‘evil’ and other country is ‘victim’ and swap their places, their opinion instantly changes 180 degrees and Russia is evil again
Xhi_Chucks on
Neither Europe nor the USA could grasp one simple fact: Russia is an empire. Because of this misunderstanding, they have tried to maintain it, thereby perpetuating instability in the world. Just remember the period after the collapse of the USSR, and note how things started to change after Putin came to power. He is using his power to rebuild and maintain the Russian Empire.
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Obviously the results were wrong.
>Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.
>- Joseph Stalin
It has been ever thus in Mother Russia. Nothing has changed.
That was after 1990 and Putin was laying low. This is interesting as I have never ever heard of Tatarstan and only somewhat familiar with Tatars connected with Crimea and Dagestan. Thank you. I need to learn more on that republic.
Like in Catalonia?
I mean, it brings up an interesting point that sovereignty ultimately can’t be granted by vote.
Why would they? Russia is fascist. Still better of than Chechnya.
And how are things on your end? When are you going to recognize Catalonia’s referendums?
Before you start saying russia bad (which it is) look up Spain and Catalonia and that was very recent…
Britain did vote for leaving EU and went through with it, but I don’t think they had much good from it. Tatarstan is not just landlocked, it is an enclave inside Russia with a good degree of autonomy even now (by Russian measures). Even if it was to leave Russia, how was it supposed to survive? On the spirit of democracy alone?
Russia should be dissolved and people should be free from its oppression
All u need to know about Russian referendums.
Dissolve the Russian Federation like the USSR
Russia being a “prison of peoples”, as Lenin called it, still rings true more than a hundred years later.
Why is th picture black and white?
LOL
Surprise surprise
And now their language is banned from learning in schools. Dead nation destroyed in every possible way by russia.
This wasnt really a treaty about independence but more of about the special autonomy status for Tatarstan, something like with Chechnya. Tatarstan get the right to its own independent foreign policy, foreign economic relations, own military service and constitution. Not everything was implemented; Tatarstan made many compromises, but its special status remained in effect until Putin began the process of centralization, as a result of which Tatarstan ultimately lost all traces of autonomy by 2017 (on paper, in fact it happened about a decade before).
Currently, local and regional authorities have only marginal control in Russia. Since the last “reform,” even elections for local officials was abolished and local authorities are appointed by the Kremlin.
Chronically online people in comments whimpering about dissolving Russia can see absolutely no correlation between this and same referendums In Crimea or Donbass (which are suddenly super wrong and Russia is fascist again, not like it’s exactly same situation flipped 180 degrees lmao) genuinely what’s wrong with these people and their hate towards Russia, give them any situation where Russia is ‘evil’ and other country is ‘victim’ and swap their places, their opinion instantly changes 180 degrees and Russia is evil again
Neither Europe nor the USA could grasp one simple fact: Russia is an empire. Because of this misunderstanding, they have tried to maintain it, thereby perpetuating instability in the world. Just remember the period after the collapse of the USSR, and note how things started to change after Putin came to power. He is using his power to rebuild and maintain the Russian Empire.