General election latest: Sunak says he will fight to stop Tories from coming third
https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/uk-general-election-2024-reform-tories-labour-latest-news-8z700x837
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General election latest: Sunak says he will fight to stop Tories from coming third
https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/uk-general-election-2024-reform-tories-labour-latest-news-8z700x837
Posted by Aggressive_Plates
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Now we know the only reason he called the election right now…
I mean, it’s still possible they come 4th, if they have a few point swing to the Lib-Dems and Reform gains a few points from them its absolutely possible and if anyone can achieve it Sunak can.
It will have been the first time in my entire life seeing Tories come third (if it happens). Imagine the chaos. However, I have seen the electorate make some dumb ass decisions *cough Brexit cough* so I will be watching the result with beady eyes.
I mean that is pretty much how bad it’s going…it’s gone from being defending champions to a relegation dog fight!
So poor at politics. He’s being squeezed by Reform (those who voted from the red wall were voting for Johnson over Corbyn and were never going to stick with tories) but refuses to attack them, instead tripping over himself in attacking a party that will win by a country mile. At least the other parties recognise this and are instead aiming to improve their number of seats
Tories are the Spurs of the political world, they’re going to finish third in a two-horse race.
I’m not actually sure he or any other ‘top tories’ believe there’s much of a chance they’ll come 3rd.
Reform are polling well for a small party, but polling well and doing well are obviously very different things – and overall support doesn’t translate into loads of seats in the commons, due to the political system we’re living in.
I do wonder if some of this is just tories trying to scare sections of their base into voting who they’d feared may otherwise have just stayed at home on polling day.
Bloody hell. The man’s went from trying to mitigate not losing too badly to Labour, to not losing too badly to the Lib Dems.
He called this election.
All this can be traced back to Cameron with his fucked up Austerity and pandering to ukip resulting in the fuckup that is Brexit.
Fuck anyone who voted for unicorns and think the Tories ever cared about anything but themselves and their bank balances.
He put the final nail in the coffin with the D-day debacle.
Halfway through the election, near the end of the election, at the start it wouldn’t matter.
Majority of conservatives are very, very proud British people and absolutely love the war heroes and will not tolerate disrespect towards them, this played straight into reforms hands, as there whole ideology (whether you agree with it or not) is British people first, Britain first and get the foreigners out pretty much, which appeals to many conservative voters.
Imagine leading a party that has been ruling over the country for large chunks of the past 250+ years and saying you’ll fight to stop them coming third. Pathetic
A Government who won with an 80 majority last time is now having to say they are fighting to even be the opposition. In a country with FPTP? Jesus wept. They really are in trouble.
As a messaging strategy, this is disastrous. The public don’t back losers in elections, they never have. Most people who vote, take it pretty seriously, even if that is the sum total of their political interaction, so why waste it on a doomed party or one not even trying to win?
We are missing some positive politics in this election and both Labour and the Tories are guilty of being far too mute on when it comes to giving people hope. I desperately hope that Labour seize this opportunity with half the campaign left to now hit the afterburners and come out with some tub thumping, positive messages. Not Johnsonesque bullshit, but at least some “we will do this” rather than “we’ll do our best”.
This is the moment for Labour to kill the Tories completely and start to take on Reform, who whilst unlikely to get many seats, are a nasty cancer in the heart of our politics right now. They need to be excised.
3rd would be a start, it would be nice to see the chances of them coming 4th, 5th or 6th.
It’s still not too late for him to resign in order to give the tories a fighting chance.
Defeatist attitude? “We can’t win, we’ll try for second.”
He has set himself ambitious goals. Hard to beat this kind of aspiration.
As much as possible, we should strive to take that away from him too.
As funny as this headline was to read, I suspect the Tories strategy is now to try and scare their very loyal base into voting for them to prevent a perceived wipeout.
Honestly though, one of the greatest trainwrecks in the history of British politics. I don’t particularly dislike Sunak, but my god the guy is an absolutely useless politician.
Somewhat depressing that this is where we have got to.
One….seriously one…poll with a margin of error of +/- 3 points puts Reform 1 point ahead, which is massively the outlier, and we’ve stopped discussing policy or the future of the country and obsessed over the Tory/Reform horse race.
Meanwhile most polls have Lib Dems getting a few percentage points further back and the Greens a few further back from them, and I’m not seeing their leaders given anything like the air time of Reform, nor their policies getting anything like the attention they should.
First he needs to stop lying…
Second. Accept he’s out touch and really shouldnt pretend otherwise
Lastly…. Ahh fuck it. They are all bell ends! Tory scum out!!
I’m trying to imagine what the Commons will look like. The government side will have to overflow to the Opposition benches.
If they are decimated, imagine if they start being in favour of some kind of proportional representation voting scheme instead of FPTP. Could be something positive to come out of this political period.
Too late. Tories will behind the LibDems.
Haha Tories will fight the Greens… with fantastic green policies. That will be funny.
Even if you think you might come third you don’t say it, not unless you want to lose more votes.
I’m so glad I’m alive to hear a Tory prime minister say this. It feels like a dream, lol.
I think he can do it.
No one could have believed it a few weeks ago before he called the election in the rain, but I really believe he can drag them down to fourth.