Unfortunately the newspapers haven’t reported on this just yet so I had to link directly to the Premier’s site. Anyway the bullet points are:
* three hours of free power in the middle of the day
* the exact hours are not stated. I assume it’s 11am-2pm as in NSW, but it might be between 12 pm and 3pm as in SA
* available from 1 October 2026.
Benson92 on
Can someone please explain the maths to me. How can I, a person with solar and batteries save $1070 under this scheme if I already use 0kwh of grid energy during this time.
The maths doesn’t math.
EDIT: The only thing I can think of is that during a stormy winter day I can use the free energy to fully charge my battery to reduce my peak energy usage?
Edit edit: To clarify, I charge my car at night for 8c kwh between midnight and 6am. My PW3 is fully charged pretty much every day by excess solar.
Wife and I work through the day.
I think load shifting to midday only impacts a very small minority of people who are at home during the day when most people are at work.
For those that don’t have solar/battery/ev, yeah I can see the savings. But most people who have these things are already min-maxing their energy plans with existing offers. I can’t imagine this new legislation doing anything but forcing providers to shift the costs in other ways (like removing or changing other plans) to make up the different.ce
RoyaleAuFrommage on
meh, already get this with globird.
They have a 4 free hour offer too.
(and like all mandates of this nature, they money to pay for it must come from somewhere, so typically the rates for the rest of the day are increased to make up for it)
the908bus on
Chip Le Grand “how dare Dan Andrews give free power to plebs”
Jimbuscus on
>Only Labor will continue to build the renewable energy Victoria needs to push power bills down.
>The Liberals will cut state-owned renewable energy, scrap work from home and send power bills sky rocketing.
Are you supposed to make campaign advertisements in official government press releases?
hrdst on
‘About 2.6 million Victorian households will be eligible for the Midday Power Saver offer’ – so what is the eligibility criteria?
a1b3c3d7 on
How could Dan Andrews do this!?
doigal on
So as per usual it’s light on details, but in other states this applies to the default offer only, which is never the cheapest.
You’ll have to crunch the numbers yourselves, but the savings claimed are unlikely to be real for most people.
Conscious-Read-698 on
This is the power deal I already have…
Dr-PresidentDinosaur on
Claims it will save households up to $300 per year.. why not just give $300 annual energy bill credits then
nugstar on
[Cries in embedded network]
devsdevs12 on
I work in an energy retailer (had experience in Meter Data team), so I think I’m qualified to make a somewhat educated comment.
I’m fully aware that some retailers are already doing this as part of their offer (from memory I think it’s OVO and Globird, companies that I do not work for).
The idea of this is to basically further flatten the supply curve during peak export hours from household solar exports, and to ensure that ALL retailers are on board on this train (the retailer I work for does not have this offer).
In terms of the approximate $300 savings, that’s just a somewhat educated guess. Everyone’s mileage may vary depending on how they usually utilise their power usage. That’s why the government doesn’t give households a $300 credit instead of this.
commentman10 on
Wait so if you have solar. You get a better tariff sell rate for the 3 hours? Is that what it is? And how much?
Few-Pressure9581 on
Isn’t this normal? I’ve had free electricity for last 15 months during these hours
BigLeSigh on
OVO already do this, works well if you have smart appliances
VictorVanguard on
Is there a cap in terms of kwh pulled?
For EV users without 3-phase, is there any benefit in making the upgrade, especially in light of Vehicle to Home (V2H)?
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Unfortunately the newspapers haven’t reported on this just yet so I had to link directly to the Premier’s site. Anyway the bullet points are:
* three hours of free power in the middle of the day
* the exact hours are not stated. I assume it’s 11am-2pm as in NSW, but it might be between 12 pm and 3pm as in SA
* available from 1 October 2026.
Can someone please explain the maths to me. How can I, a person with solar and batteries save $1070 under this scheme if I already use 0kwh of grid energy during this time.
The maths doesn’t math.
EDIT: The only thing I can think of is that during a stormy winter day I can use the free energy to fully charge my battery to reduce my peak energy usage?
Edit edit: To clarify, I charge my car at night for 8c kwh between midnight and 6am. My PW3 is fully charged pretty much every day by excess solar.
Wife and I work through the day.
I think load shifting to midday only impacts a very small minority of people who are at home during the day when most people are at work.
For those that don’t have solar/battery/ev, yeah I can see the savings. But most people who have these things are already min-maxing their energy plans with existing offers. I can’t imagine this new legislation doing anything but forcing providers to shift the costs in other ways (like removing or changing other plans) to make up the different.ce
meh, already get this with globird.
They have a 4 free hour offer too.
(and like all mandates of this nature, they money to pay for it must come from somewhere, so typically the rates for the rest of the day are increased to make up for it)
Chip Le Grand “how dare Dan Andrews give free power to plebs”
>Only Labor will continue to build the renewable energy Victoria needs to push power bills down.
>The Liberals will cut state-owned renewable energy, scrap work from home and send power bills sky rocketing.
Are you supposed to make campaign advertisements in official government press releases?
‘About 2.6 million Victorian households will be eligible for the Midday Power Saver offer’ – so what is the eligibility criteria?
How could Dan Andrews do this!?
So as per usual it’s light on details, but in other states this applies to the default offer only, which is never the cheapest.
You’ll have to crunch the numbers yourselves, but the savings claimed are unlikely to be real for most people.
This is the power deal I already have…
Claims it will save households up to $300 per year.. why not just give $300 annual energy bill credits then
[Cries in embedded network]
I work in an energy retailer (had experience in Meter Data team), so I think I’m qualified to make a somewhat educated comment.
I’m fully aware that some retailers are already doing this as part of their offer (from memory I think it’s OVO and Globird, companies that I do not work for).
The idea of this is to basically further flatten the supply curve during peak export hours from household solar exports, and to ensure that ALL retailers are on board on this train (the retailer I work for does not have this offer).
In terms of the approximate $300 savings, that’s just a somewhat educated guess. Everyone’s mileage may vary depending on how they usually utilise their power usage. That’s why the government doesn’t give households a $300 credit instead of this.
Wait so if you have solar. You get a better tariff sell rate for the 3 hours? Is that what it is? And how much?
Isn’t this normal? I’ve had free electricity for last 15 months during these hours
OVO already do this, works well if you have smart appliances
Is there a cap in terms of kwh pulled?
For EV users without 3-phase, is there any benefit in making the upgrade, especially in light of Vehicle to Home (V2H)?