The 10km/h speed limit for all e-bikes (yes, even the compliant pedal assist ones limited to 25km/h which are effectively just a bicycle) on all footpaths and all bikeways is even more stupid that the 16+ age restriction but not by much.
What we wanted was to remove illegal, overpowered e-motorcycles from roads and footpaths and bikeways by enforcing existing laws.
What the state LNP did was to take the problem of illegal e-motorcycles and used it to effectively destroy active transport in Queensland.
Legal, pedal assisted bicycles are not tenable as a transport option at 10km/h and most people who ride them to commute, pick up groceries, ferry kids, etc have been using them because there are bikeways available to use them on. They want to avoid riding them on roads as much as possible because it's not safe. The LNP won't fix that problem either.
Legal, compliant e-bikes constitute a large proportion of sales for Queensland's bike industry now. They are the missing link we'd been waiting for to get people out of cars. That industry will face a huge blow because of this legislation.
The only conclusion to be drawn from all this is that the LNP just doesn't like bikes and thinks nobody should be using them for transport. The LNP seems to have no problems forcing its views on all Queenslanders.
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When’s the last time Mickelturd rode a bike? Probably 1995 by his triple chin. What a fucking joke of a government.
Welcome to e-bikes/scooters doing 25klm/hr on the road, holding up traffic. Good work government, you useless hacks.
Liberal or Labor, they’ll always be looking at ways to stop you from getting around for free. Whether that’s eBikes or eScooters and everything in-between.
No rego, no licensing = no $$$ for the government.
I’m all for eBikes and eScooters regardless of power and speed provided they’re ridden safely.
In these dystopian times it wouldn’t surprise me if we needed a licence or to pay a tax or levy to walk…
Down vote me all you want lol, I’ll continue not paying rego or holding a licence while enjoying my free transport to and from work and it all it costs me is 30c for a full charge and 90km range.
Have fun with those fuel prices 😀
edit I guess everyone is salty about having to pay for fuel, rego and a licence lol. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
A bike?! I am inconvenienced. However will I get those 3 seconds back?
I can’t read the term “car brain” without thinking about r/fuckcars
One thing people dont realise about increasing police powers is that police provide governments pathways to criminalise everyone.
You all were happy enough to criminalise kids and indigenous folk, but now they’re coming for anyone there’s outrage?
Apparently it’s the government we all deserve? So the authoritarians have taken control because, (checks notes) QLDers cant tolerate ALP feds and state? Onlly white men who present as cops are safe from cops now.
So just to be clear about this but I can’t ride my ebike over 10 kmh on the bike path but it’s ok for me to ride my carbon fibre race bike in a peloton of 20 sweaty bods at 50 plus kmh down the bike path ,that’s still ok yeah .
Fukn stupid government.
I’m going to go back to riding a motorcycle,a two stroke ,nice and fukn noisy .
Might make a point of tuning it at 3 am every other day .
Stupid government.
Older people are forgetting that we’re a hilly city and stonewalling children from using peddle assisted bikes forces them to use cars because our public transport system takes people into the city and that’s it.
Isn’t a bike barely stable at 10km/h, particularly for larger heavier folks?
This whole thing is fucking absurd
Imagine international visitors for the Olympics seeing a cop with a speed camera pulling people over for going ~15km/h (average cycling speed). Clown stuff
I thought the previous state govt when mark bailey was transport minister was rediculously money hungry and over the top with fines and laws. He managed to roughly double revenue from fines and also increase road fatalities. I mean, surely anyone who wasn’t a sadistic window licker would undo some of the previous govts actions.
brent mickelberg – hmmm laws. here, hold my donut and a couple of my chins.
Some options for contacting members of parliament etc here:
https://bq.org.au/news/category/advocacy/
I don’t ride an ebike but I’m outraged at the overreach. Treating legal ebikes different to pedal powered bikes is a confusing double standard, and it’s hard not to see it as an intentional hit to car alternatives and active transport.
Why vote them in.. ever??? When will people learn.
Based on that article, the 10km/h limit is for footpaths. Where did you read that bikeways will also be limited to 10km/h for e-bikes?
Also, requiring that anyone on an e-bike, no matter their age, hold a drivers licence is peak stupid and will just give the cops reason to pull up anyone they don’t like.
If I have to pay for expensive fuel so should those meddling kids!
who is ferrying kids on an ebike lol
I can understand dropping the speed limit from 12kph to 10kph on footpaths, not great but I can understand it.
Putting a 10kph limit on bikepaths seems to be designed to destroy e-bike use.
I also wonder if they are going to limit this to just e-bikes. I already pass some e-bikes on my pushbike. It would be ridiculous to be on the big, wide bikeway near my place and see e-bike riders being passed by not only normal pushbikes but also by fast joggers.
When you look at this along with the policies of the lnp and what they have done to long planned and much needed public transport improvements, it sure looks like they just want forces as much car usage as possible.
Look there really is an issue with (mostly) teen boys tooling around on what might as well be electric motorbikes illegally but what gets my goat is Mr Adult Crime Adult Time himself can’t enforce existing laws…
I’ve found Reddit users are often open to new ideas, so this feels like a reasonable place to raise it. With the recent e-bike policy discussion, it seems like a good time for us to talk about alternatives to driving (I’ve tried this before in a post [https://imgur.com/fiIrcNx](https://imgur.com/fiIrcNx))
Netherlands started having this conversation in the 1970s and the outcome has been livable, walkable cities that work well for drivers and people on bikes.
The Qld Government legislation is really disappointing. But setting that aside, it feels like a broader question worth discussing as a city. What do we want Brisbane to look like in the long term?
[How did the Dutch get their cycle paths? – BICYCLE DUTCH](https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2021/11/17/how-did-the-dutch-get-their-cycle-paths/)
Gotta pay for them Olympics somehow. We’ll be fined and taxed to the eyeballs
>The 10km/h speed limit for all e-bikes (yes, even the compliant pedal assist ones limited to 25km/h which are effectively just a bicycle) on **all footpaths and all bikeways** is even more stupid that the 16+ age restriction but not by much.
25km/h…you’re going to have old birds on mobility scooters passing you flipping the bird and telling you to get the fuck out of the way 😛
Also how weird is it that it would be brought in right at the time where they would be of most benefit to the general population and potentially economy, offsetting alot of personal trips in ICE vehicles.
Killed a generational movement right at the time it could take flight.
How is the age restriction stupid? Everyday I see near misses cause kids are riding those things everywhere with no awareness.
Piece of garbage post. There is no intent for a 10kph limit on bikeways. That limit is only for footpaths and shared paths.
Well, it seems that this guy who rides my fully pedal powered MTB almost exclusively on footpaths and bikeways for the purpose of exercise will now be limited to something not much faster than a walking pace. Thanks LNP.
Am we supposed to use a speedo?
Why not use m/s or m/m instead of km/h?
10km/h = 2.77m/s = 166.67m/m
12km/h = 3.33m/s = 200m/m
May as well add a sign like those on the highway to “check your speed”? Or add chevrons so the pedstrian/cyclists in front of you is 2 chevrons away?
If I get pulled over for doing more than 10km/hr, can I just turn my bike off secretly and pretend it wasn’t on? Or put the power down to 0 and say that it’s then just a normal bike without any pedal assist?
Or even if my bike is off, I’m still limited to 10km/hr?
The LNP would be getting direction from safety groups, lawyers and departments who, even though they know full well cannot mitigate 100% of the risk are going to try anyway.
It’s easy to blame the LNP on this one but I can see the same thing happening just as easily with Labor. Not because “they’re all the same” but because they receive the same advice from thw same sources.
Now ask yourself: What MP wants to be the one with the finger pointed at them if Little Billy or Sally gets run over by an eBike and they voted against limits?
It’s a classical Yes Minister “Courageous” moment.
Might as well just ride a normal bike, or are non electric ones also subject to speed limits? 10kmh you might as well walk it’ll be faster!?