Nigel Farage clear winner of ITV debate, poll reveals
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nigel-farage-itv-debate-poll-winner-103223381.html
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Nigel Farage clear winner of ITV debate, poll reveals
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nigel-farage-itv-debate-poll-winner-103223381.html
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> In secon place, Labour’s Angela Rayner was much further behind, tipped as the winner by 19% of people, while Penny Mordaunt received 7% of the vote.
I wonder how long it will take Yahoo to spot the typo.
I’m sure he’ll be singing ‘Tomorrow Belongs to Me’ at party HQ this evening.
Just watched his bit on the BBC this morning and honestly it’s the same shit different day, just pandering to the type of people who voted brexit.
Ofcourse. Our world is so stupid. The right: willing to lie, simplify and stoke base fears to win by any count.
The left: much less willing to do that (I’m aware their are still people willing to).
‘Woah the right keep winning…this needs to be studied, they’re doing something amazing…
I dont know people are shocked.
Europe are a clear example of where we’re heading, and labours manifesto all but confirms it. They’ll get power, will do nothing to fix anything and then Farage and his populous right wing will gain even more support.
He’s already at the stage where the public find him in favour of winning debates he shouldn’t even be on. Just going to get worse
What is he going to do if elected, he will just kick shit over and not work to actually fix stuff.
He has no experience in the workings of Westminster, no wish to work with any of the parties that will be in power.
He will break stuff and point to it and say why is this not fixed!
“What will your party do about such high levels of immigration, in such a small amount of time?”
We will take the moral high ground, and call you all idiots, because we in Scotland, don’t have the same levels of immigration you have in England.
We’re also able to give free tuition fees, because are population is a lot lower. Thanks to the lack of immigration.
The British political left have a choice:
1. Implement tightly controlled migration policies focused on a moderate number of high-skilled migrants and with a strict focus on integration (e.g. Denmark’s model), **and** then all their other policies around healthcare, social welfare, housing, policing can all be as left-wing as they want
2. Continue a left-wing ‘mass-migration’ approach, annoy loads of voters and then allow the right-wing to eventually win massively, to then implement the same strict migration policies, but **also** all their other policies will be right-leaning.
The EU elections have shown what happens when politicians either ignore or fail to deal with mass-migration, the electorate really don’t like it. Yes you get a boost of economic growth and cheap labour, but at the expense of social cohesion. There’s a reason why Russia is trying its best to smuggle illegal migrants into Europe; it can destabilise whole societies when there are vast cultural differences between migrants and host countries.
I hate him but he’s a good orator. Which us why giving him a platform and a referendum was so dangerous.
And Cameron should’ve known this. I’m sure he read Plato’s *Republic* at Eton. There’s a whole section on how dangerous good orators are for making bad ideas sound fantastic to the masses. I went to a shitty comp and could see how terrible giving this guy a national platform would be… Basic shit.
Even though I would never vote for him, he comes across as more in control, one way to defeat him is to get him onto environment because he hasn’t got a clue, he’s still stuck in the past.
The only one up there saying stuff that a majority of people agree with (not Reddit or Twitter) wins the popular vote?
How can this be?
*insert shocked face*
/s
Farage is a gifted orator, but his main advantage is that he doesn’t have to do a bloody thing beside promise a simple (untested, unverified, unverifiable) solution to complex problems. He knows he isn’t going to get into power and can thus promise the moon on a stick.
There is a personality cult around Farage, the very loud right wingers who claim to be ‘silent’, it is no surprise he was deemed ‘winner’
Best bit when he said “I never lie” and everyone laughed at him.
When 62% of people agree with you, can you really still be called fringe?
I mean you’d have to be deluded to think otherwise. He’s an absolutely excellent speaker and electoral strategist. He’s also up against the absolute lowest intellectual standard of political opposition I can remember in British history.
Only person speaking realistically about the impacts of immigration does well with viewers who as a whole see immigration as one, if not the most important issue facing the country short term. Shocking. Even more shocking than in 4 years time when the cost of living has not changed in the slightest thanks to the inevitable status quo with Labour.
Where the fuck are the politicians pandering to people who want:
1) reform of the housing market
2) regulated weed / decriminalised drugs
3) significantly increased prison sentences for violent crimes
If Labour kept their economic policies but moved slightly to the right on immigration, they would never lose another election.
Imagine being so braindead that you’re going to vote for Farridge after you voted for his brexit. Everything remainers said has been proven correct…and yet you’re going to be manipulated by him again? Jesus christ.
The rise of Islam in the UK is worrying and Farage is seemingly the only one that cares…so it resonates. Very Simple Math. This isn’t far right this is common sense.
It’s easy to ‘win’ a ‘debate’ when all you do is scapegoat and lie.
The winner of a debate is not the person who the audience agrees with most, it’s the person who changes the highest numbers of minds
If you’re shocked you need to get offline and talk to real people.. get off your high horses and think why the right is getting more power all over Europe. Stay in your echo changes and keep being surprised.
There is not one good news story re brexit, how the fuck anyone falls for it AFTER we’ve seen project fear mostly turn out as the experts predicted is beyond me. I can understand falling for it before, but now we have visas for everyone as the price of shite trade deals. We’ve got lorries waiting 20, 50hrs. We’ve got firms hurt, and jobs lost and price rises and all reams of red tape and unravelling standards for food, water etc. You can SEE the impact of hard brexit, and how can anyone think “yeah that worked”. I don’t get it.
Shocking in as much as he was dreadful. Pulling numbers out of his arse, moaning relentlessly, clearly lying throughout. All he needs to do though apparently.
It’s a poll by yahoo of their readers it’s hardly a consensus of the public, I’m sure if they did a poll of guardian readers it would be different.
Yeah a poll of people who watch ITV political debates. Average age of that demographic? 64 I expect.
Politicians lie.
I don’t care if he won or not, he’s a special kind of lying, racist bigot who will never, ever get my vote.
He picked his fights well. Mordaunt didn’t want to criticise him, Mordaunt and rayner were at one another like cats…he basically had a free ride safe for snp and pc guys. Another easy win and dominated a debate despite never being elected as having almost no political presence
This is not a comment on his substantive value but he was the only one of the stage who came across remotely natural and charismatic.
Ahhh yes. TikTok brings less brain rot then fucking politics.
Don’t like him nor agree with him but he is by far the best speaker. Which will do reform well even if its stupid
The contempt in this thread is the exact reason the conservative movement is happening.
If you can’t even comprehend the genuine concerns of people you disagree with you won’t find a middle ground.
I love that these hard left woke idiots just cannot grasp that millions of people think differently to them…. And the opposing opinions matter every bit as much as your virtue signalling.
what would a labour government look like with reform as the opposition, their a bloody nightmare, no matter what you say to these people they literally care about one thing…boats.
It doesn’t matter if Nigel wants to get rid of the NHS and make it private, doesn’t matter he would literally make your entire life worse off than it is now, these idiots still want to vote for him. Absolutely clueless.
You’d think Brexit would have some impact on how people perceive the shit that comes out of his mouth.