In other news, employers workshop new ways to imply staff WFH without actually mandating it so they can deny it later.
* “If you want to WFH thats up to you.”
* “Have you considered public transport?”
* “We are a flexible workplace.”
theHoundLivessss on
It is not the time for panic. However, we need to acknowledge that if this war keeps going, then it will hurt a bit. Actions taken early, such as immediate fuel rations and wfh mandates, alleviate more of that long term pain when adopted early. Stop dancing around it. This is unavoidable unless America withdraws. They do not appear ready to, so take more action now. It is time.
harbourbarber on
Check Albo out. Doing all the things the right are accusing him of not doing.
mrp61 on
The government tip toeing around this issue makes me believe the issue is worse than they are letting on.
I usually get petrol after 10:30/11 pm and have noticed a lot of petrol stations around where I live in North West Sydney either run out of petrol but still open (7/11) or just shut early if they close at 12.
While I’m sure they probably get a delivery in the middle of the night or early morning this really shouldn’t be happening in a country like Australia
Auralatom on
Emergency. Monday next week
WeaponstoMax on
The media is desperate to whip up a Covid-style panic over this.
The reality is, if fuel rationing happened, it wouldn’t be the end of civilisation. It would actually be an amazing example of the sort of societal levers we can to pull that, yes, would cause inconvenience and maybe some amount of hardship for some, but would prevent really bad things from happening and help keep society going.
Asentienttable on
And as usual the discussion will be about how this is really bad but no changes to be implemented
FuckOffNazis on
It’s already becoming clear just with their behaviour with these price fluctuations that our wholesale and distribution network can’t be trusted to behave in the public interest with anything even smelling faintly of actual supply constraints.
S_QW22 on
How the F do we, one of the world’s biggest energy exporter, start having a fuel crunch 2.5 weeks into a war when even the Chinese and the Japanese, who are the biggest buyer of Iran oil, aren’t panicking as much?
thebigonebitey on
Will they call an emergency right before Easter? I have a feeling they would put off until after
Bubbly-University870 on
Thanks Trump and Netanyahu
death_by_laughs on
I vaguely recall the SA Treasurer Tom Koutsantonis on Saturday night on ABC’s SA election coverage saying that there was actually more fuel in Australia than before the Iran war kicked off and this entire fuel shortage debacle has come about because of fuel anxiety and panic buying, no doubt fueled by the media about the fuel crisis. Koutsantonis has said this was an entirely “demand-side” issue.
Is there any truth to that or is it Koutsantonis running cover for Albo and federal Labor?
I figure all the fuel shipment cancelations and deferrals don’t help in the intermediate term though.
SimplyTheAverage on
Zoom meetings or face to face?
Ordinary-Resource382 on
Lockdown with 5km driving radius except if you’re visiting a CBD cafe incoming
walkingmelways on
The Government could force fuel retailers to stop gouging us yesterday if they had any spine — or indeed weren’t in the pocket of business. Fuel retailers are charging you and I three dollars for fuel __that they already bought at pre-war prices__. The Laberal® government duopoly exists to protect business profits while placating the population.
Archon-Toten on
Yes, which they will all drive to.
mpember on
This had better be a zoom meeting. If anyone is getting on a plane for this they should be ripped a new one by the media
Swank_on_a_plank on
Aside from barring fuel deliveries to businesses at certain times, I don’t see how rationing the public can work? Regular customers can just leap-frog between stations, while Psycho customers will go in and threaten the attendants when they don’t restart the pump.
Unless the police are finally going to police? After enough incidents? Or some security company is about to get a fat contract to place guards at every one?
MycologistSharp4337 on
Cool. Can we stop supporting warmongering nation states as a bare minimum?
Plenty_Web_9118 on
No WFH still?
cataractum on
Yeah we’re straight fucked unless we cut a deal with China basically. Maybe India, but everyone else needs their oil now.
Rush_Banana on
Starting to feel like Covid.
oldishmanlogan on
Threes the charm.
Gungirlyuna on
All the talking but no action
Frozefoots on
Mandate WFH. Tell the business lobby to get fucked.
Put in a volume limit at the bowsers.
Raise export taxes to appropriate levels.
Tax the corporations.
Human-Warning-1840 on
I think WFH mandate will be last resort. It would open a new can of worms for businesses. It gives people more arguments to say, in crisis it’s ok to work from home but in general it’s not, so we want wfh back on more days. Just my opinion
seventh_skyline on
Talking to a farming family this morning.
They’ve just had a diesel delivery, $3.50/L they usually pay below retail, here retail is $3.15 at the moment.
They’ve straight out said, we just won’t plant.
They can’t get fertilisers, diesel prices mean no profit, so we’ll just sit it out & keep our cows fed. There’s a much bigger problem here than having to pay $3/L for petrol.
Stockpile winter grown vege seeds.
There’s people where we are doomsday prepping with vege patches and preserved foods.
C_Ironfoundersson on
Mandate work from home, scrap the LCT for EVs entirely, federalise grants for Solar panels on rooftops. Tax the fucking multinationals properly.
Dr-PresidentDinosaur on
If we just make all truck drivers work from home there won’t be a crisis
Marshyyyy93 on
Where nothing will be achieved…
Lost_Tumbleweed_5669 on
They need to make WFH mandatory for all call centre work, office work etc just to start.
Chiron17 on
Make public transport free. Strongly encourage WFH where possible.
Legal-Selection-4650 on
I noticed this morning between 7am and 9am on the Hume Highway at Casula a lot less cars. Are commuters starting to take public transport? It felt like peak hour during the Xmas-New Year break.
Low-Quality-144 on
WFH incoming!
KyokkoSora on
I really, really feel like we need a concrete response to this that goes beyond just reassuring the populous.
This government has an undisputed majority that is almost definitely safe for the next election, it’s *okay* for them to rock the boat a bit to address a national crisis.
fred28gfgg on
Businesses saw how difficult it was to get people to come back into the office after COVID and will do anything they can to make sure mass WFH never happens again.
Evisra on
People are fucking morons. The roads in Adelaide are packed and servos have line ups, it’s like everyone is doubling-down on shithouse behaviour
Lngdnzi on
They’re going to non-confrontationally suggest that we all carpool
everbass on
I drive an EV so I’m not directly exposed to this.
Is it really that bad out there? I see prices are pretty insane (309 for diesel), but are people really running out of fuel?
Is there a genuine concern we’re going to run out of fuel or need to start rationing it?
didntseethat-coming on
All petrol stations are selling SO much petrol. I know multiple people who work in stations and they are SO busy! That’s why stations are running out. Not because they aren’t getting more deliveries, because people are being really silly and buying more than they need.
Don’t forget to stock up on toilet paper when you pay for the petrol.
Be sensible y’all , don’t be part of the problem 😩
KyokkoSora on
I wonder how popular electric vehicles will become once this has blown over, especially electric trucks (which are a lot more viable in the current year than many people realise).
42 Comments
Please do something
In other news, employers workshop new ways to imply staff WFH without actually mandating it so they can deny it later.
* “If you want to WFH thats up to you.”
* “Have you considered public transport?”
* “We are a flexible workplace.”
It is not the time for panic. However, we need to acknowledge that if this war keeps going, then it will hurt a bit. Actions taken early, such as immediate fuel rations and wfh mandates, alleviate more of that long term pain when adopted early. Stop dancing around it. This is unavoidable unless America withdraws. They do not appear ready to, so take more action now. It is time.
Check Albo out. Doing all the things the right are accusing him of not doing.
The government tip toeing around this issue makes me believe the issue is worse than they are letting on.
I usually get petrol after 10:30/11 pm and have noticed a lot of petrol stations around where I live in North West Sydney either run out of petrol but still open (7/11) or just shut early if they close at 12.
While I’m sure they probably get a delivery in the middle of the night or early morning this really shouldn’t be happening in a country like Australia
Emergency. Monday next week
The media is desperate to whip up a Covid-style panic over this.
The reality is, if fuel rationing happened, it wouldn’t be the end of civilisation. It would actually be an amazing example of the sort of societal levers we can to pull that, yes, would cause inconvenience and maybe some amount of hardship for some, but would prevent really bad things from happening and help keep society going.
And as usual the discussion will be about how this is really bad but no changes to be implemented
It’s already becoming clear just with their behaviour with these price fluctuations that our wholesale and distribution network can’t be trusted to behave in the public interest with anything even smelling faintly of actual supply constraints.
How the F do we, one of the world’s biggest energy exporter, start having a fuel crunch 2.5 weeks into a war when even the Chinese and the Japanese, who are the biggest buyer of Iran oil, aren’t panicking as much?
Will they call an emergency right before Easter? I have a feeling they would put off until after
Thanks Trump and Netanyahu
I vaguely recall the SA Treasurer Tom Koutsantonis on Saturday night on ABC’s SA election coverage saying that there was actually more fuel in Australia than before the Iran war kicked off and this entire fuel shortage debacle has come about because of fuel anxiety and panic buying, no doubt fueled by the media about the fuel crisis. Koutsantonis has said this was an entirely “demand-side” issue.
Is there any truth to that or is it Koutsantonis running cover for Albo and federal Labor?
I figure all the fuel shipment cancelations and deferrals don’t help in the intermediate term though.
Zoom meetings or face to face?
Lockdown with 5km driving radius except if you’re visiting a CBD cafe incoming
The Government could force fuel retailers to stop gouging us yesterday if they had any spine — or indeed weren’t in the pocket of business. Fuel retailers are charging you and I three dollars for fuel __that they already bought at pre-war prices__. The Laberal® government duopoly exists to protect business profits while placating the population.
Yes, which they will all drive to.
This had better be a zoom meeting. If anyone is getting on a plane for this they should be ripped a new one by the media
Aside from barring fuel deliveries to businesses at certain times, I don’t see how rationing the public can work? Regular customers can just leap-frog between stations, while Psycho customers will go in and threaten the attendants when they don’t restart the pump.
Unless the police are finally going to police? After enough incidents? Or some security company is about to get a fat contract to place guards at every one?
Cool. Can we stop supporting warmongering nation states as a bare minimum?
No WFH still?
Yeah we’re straight fucked unless we cut a deal with China basically. Maybe India, but everyone else needs their oil now.
Starting to feel like Covid.
Threes the charm.
All the talking but no action
Mandate WFH. Tell the business lobby to get fucked.
Put in a volume limit at the bowsers.
Raise export taxes to appropriate levels.
Tax the corporations.
I think WFH mandate will be last resort. It would open a new can of worms for businesses. It gives people more arguments to say, in crisis it’s ok to work from home but in general it’s not, so we want wfh back on more days. Just my opinion
Talking to a farming family this morning.
They’ve just had a diesel delivery, $3.50/L they usually pay below retail, here retail is $3.15 at the moment.
They’ve straight out said, we just won’t plant.
They can’t get fertilisers, diesel prices mean no profit, so we’ll just sit it out & keep our cows fed. There’s a much bigger problem here than having to pay $3/L for petrol.
Stockpile winter grown vege seeds.
There’s people where we are doomsday prepping with vege patches and preserved foods.
Mandate work from home, scrap the LCT for EVs entirely, federalise grants for Solar panels on rooftops. Tax the fucking multinationals properly.
If we just make all truck drivers work from home there won’t be a crisis
Where nothing will be achieved…
They need to make WFH mandatory for all call centre work, office work etc just to start.
Make public transport free. Strongly encourage WFH where possible.
I noticed this morning between 7am and 9am on the Hume Highway at Casula a lot less cars. Are commuters starting to take public transport? It felt like peak hour during the Xmas-New Year break.
WFH incoming!
I really, really feel like we need a concrete response to this that goes beyond just reassuring the populous.
This government has an undisputed majority that is almost definitely safe for the next election, it’s *okay* for them to rock the boat a bit to address a national crisis.
Businesses saw how difficult it was to get people to come back into the office after COVID and will do anything they can to make sure mass WFH never happens again.
People are fucking morons. The roads in Adelaide are packed and servos have line ups, it’s like everyone is doubling-down on shithouse behaviour
They’re going to non-confrontationally suggest that we all carpool
I drive an EV so I’m not directly exposed to this.
Is it really that bad out there? I see prices are pretty insane (309 for diesel), but are people really running out of fuel?
Is there a genuine concern we’re going to run out of fuel or need to start rationing it?
All petrol stations are selling SO much petrol. I know multiple people who work in stations and they are SO busy! That’s why stations are running out. Not because they aren’t getting more deliveries, because people are being really silly and buying more than they need.
Don’t forget to stock up on toilet paper when you pay for the petrol.
Be sensible y’all , don’t be part of the problem 😩
I wonder how popular electric vehicles will become once this has blown over, especially electric trucks (which are a lot more viable in the current year than many people realise).