Cemented rate rise by decreasing inflationary forces?
Electrical_Age_7483 on
Why not two increases?
link871 on
More like June or August when the fuel excise returns.
Transientmind on
Hopefully this forces selfish pricks to hurry up and sell all the extra investment properties they leveraged themselves up to the eyeballs for in the hope they could force poorer people to pay for their early retirement.
jm_leviathan on
Reducing fuel excise while implementing a road user charge for EVs — brilliant work from our progressive Labor government.
Jarms48 on
Feels like the right wing media are pushing hard on their agenda.
Inside-Elevator9102 on
No. The cutting of excise will reduce headline inflation by .5%. The issue is when the excise returns to normal it will create a pop in the inflation figure.
medicus_au on
Oh fuck off. One actual positive bit of news and the media has to ruin it.
If a cure for cancer is ever discovered I’m sure the main story will all be about how bad it is for oncologists.
RecipeSpecialist2745 on
Well, it’s a catch-22. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. People called for relief, they got it, but wait… something the government cant control is the issue. I am just waiting for all of the political opponents coming out with BS criticism, without actually telling us what they would do in the same instance. And hence, why I hate politics and politicians. The easiest solution would be for Trump to pull back all troops and warships to the states and let the straits open up. Oh, and face the music that he raped a 13-year-old child. So thats not going to happen..
Rodgerexplosion on
Who cares at this point. There’s no more levers to pull to keep us shielded from what’s coming. Wall us up, nationalise the farms and size the means of production. Soviet Union? I thought you guys broke up?
PMmeuroneweirdtrick on
Rate increase was happening regardless
snrub742 on
That was happening with or without the cut. Fuck all that could be done from a national standard
ItsStaaaaaaaaang on
Sure, why not. I’m sure he put the chair that the author of the article stubbed their toe on in the way too. I mean what isn’t he willing to do?
SGRM_ on
Ask 10 economists what’s going to happen and you will get 11 different answers
Lost_Tumbleweed_5669 on
Believe it or not no matter what happens = price gouging
ACCC needs some boosting.
morts73 on
Cutting excise is deflationary but the oil price rise exceeds what the government can do. Only an end to the war and supply back to normal will have a material affect on prices.
Belcamryn on
Fucking hell, the Guardian is such a rag these days.
truckstick_burns on
Getting rid of the RUC will reduce food costs right?
Right Woolworths??!?
Hello?
FleshPrinnce on
This is somehow Daniel Andrews’ fault
ProposalUnited8041 on
Pretty much, or at least made it more likely.
Wotdatmouffdo on
‘everyone’ : YOU NEED TO CUT THE FUEL EXCISE
PM : ok… cut it in half then…
‘media’ : WELP – ALBO JUST CREATED A THIRD INTEREST RATE HIKE.
fuck all these people.
Ummagumma73 on
A rise in fuel prices will contribute to that anyway.
JARDIS on
Absolutely insane rhetoric from the media the last couple of weeks on this.
“Is the government doing enough?”
Government does something:
“The government doing stuff is bad actually”
Also the media:
“One Nation is kinda based actually and here’s how to sane-wash racism and lack of policy”
planetarybum on
It was pretty much locked in anyway going by Bullock’s comments. High inflation is pretty much unavoidable at this stage.
leobarao86 on
It seems that the increase will be .5% this time
m00nh34d on
I think the inflation assessment here is a bit of a stretch. They’re equating a reduction in excise to inject cash into the economy, when in reality it’s probably just reducing the already inflated prices a little, but still a lot more than normal anyway, so, hardly a “cash injection”.
They are right about the demand side of things though. Absolutely insane that we would encourage people to purchase more fuel at a time where we’re seeing panic buying and shortages as a result of that. We need to address those assholes hoarding fuel first, before we start making it cheaper for them to hoard more. You can be sure, come April 1st, when (if?) prices drop, there will be queues of cars and trucks at servos all around the country, and those same shitcunts hoarding fuel will be filling up their jerry cans again now that it’s cheaper.
Seppeon on
I’m confused why cutting these prices for everybody is a good idea at all. Prices are supposed to counteract demand when supply is short? Supply doesn’t magically increase by decreasing prices, demand may increase due to price decrease though.
It’s true people are suffering from the cost of living and this is a legitimate motivation, I hope they got their tradeoffs right because if they haven’t that suffering could be much worse no?
KingRo48 on
The problem is: supply is low. Reducing price does not fix it!
So:
1. not enough oil – not enough petrol
2. Price goes up – use reduces slightly
3. Reduce the excise – lower prices
4. Demand goes up again – vroom vroom
Repeat:
5. There is not enough oil/petrol
6. Price goes up again
ThimMerrilyn on
I’d have been happy with leaving the price high if it meant there wasn’t gonna be another interest rate rise but I can see a couple at least before EoY. I doubt 20c/L price drop on fuel for a couple of months is gonna make a difference one way or another
AussyWolf1199 on
People want him to do something about fuel prices
He does something about fuel prices
People are pissed he did something about fuel prices
rja49 on
Whats the worst thing that can happen from a Trump 2nd term? This, this shit storm of doubling fuel prices in a month from a war based on a Christian crusade and sending the world into a recession. Don’t blame Albo for trying to put a bandaid on a severed artery.
jonnieggg on
It’s ridiculous. By that logic the massive increase in energy costs should have acted like a rate rise and removed the need to increase rates recently.
The central banks are playing a very dangerous game right now. There are massive economic headwinds and inflation is unlikely to be the issue. Increasing interest rates and reducing the supply of money into an economic calamity is exactly what they did leading into the great depression. They need to read Ben Bernankies PHD. Reckless
rodgee on
We were getting another one anyway, how else are they going to lead us into recession !!
uknownix on
Targeted relief would have been better, as the fuel retailers are just gonna pump up the costs regardless. However, he has to do something so the public will stop busting his chops for things he can’t control.
skiljgfz on
Story aside, let’s see if this gets passed on at the pumps. I’m sceptical.
cbrokey on
Damned if ya do and damned if ya don’t…
lister3000 on
Alp don’t do something, everyones mad, they do the thing, everyone’s like why did they do it
TheFXartProject on
I’m tired boss
pld89 on
Did the guardian just cement a rate hike by saying the rate hike is cemented?
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Trump cemented it in about 5 weeks ago
Cemented rate rise by decreasing inflationary forces?
Why not two increases?
More like June or August when the fuel excise returns.
Hopefully this forces selfish pricks to hurry up and sell all the extra investment properties they leveraged themselves up to the eyeballs for in the hope they could force poorer people to pay for their early retirement.
Reducing fuel excise while implementing a road user charge for EVs — brilliant work from our progressive Labor government.
Feels like the right wing media are pushing hard on their agenda.
No. The cutting of excise will reduce headline inflation by .5%. The issue is when the excise returns to normal it will create a pop in the inflation figure.
Oh fuck off. One actual positive bit of news and the media has to ruin it.
If a cure for cancer is ever discovered I’m sure the main story will all be about how bad it is for oncologists.
Well, it’s a catch-22. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. People called for relief, they got it, but wait… something the government cant control is the issue. I am just waiting for all of the political opponents coming out with BS criticism, without actually telling us what they would do in the same instance. And hence, why I hate politics and politicians. The easiest solution would be for Trump to pull back all troops and warships to the states and let the straits open up. Oh, and face the music that he raped a 13-year-old child. So thats not going to happen..
Who cares at this point. There’s no more levers to pull to keep us shielded from what’s coming. Wall us up, nationalise the farms and size the means of production. Soviet Union? I thought you guys broke up?
Rate increase was happening regardless
That was happening with or without the cut. Fuck all that could be done from a national standard
Sure, why not. I’m sure he put the chair that the author of the article stubbed their toe on in the way too. I mean what isn’t he willing to do?
Ask 10 economists what’s going to happen and you will get 11 different answers
Believe it or not no matter what happens = price gouging
ACCC needs some boosting.
Cutting excise is deflationary but the oil price rise exceeds what the government can do. Only an end to the war and supply back to normal will have a material affect on prices.
Fucking hell, the Guardian is such a rag these days.
Getting rid of the RUC will reduce food costs right?
Right Woolworths??!?
Hello?
This is somehow Daniel Andrews’ fault
Pretty much, or at least made it more likely.
‘everyone’ : YOU NEED TO CUT THE FUEL EXCISE
PM : ok… cut it in half then…
‘media’ : WELP – ALBO JUST CREATED A THIRD INTEREST RATE HIKE.
fuck all these people.
A rise in fuel prices will contribute to that anyway.
Absolutely insane rhetoric from the media the last couple of weeks on this.
“Is the government doing enough?”
Government does something:
“The government doing stuff is bad actually”
Also the media:
“One Nation is kinda based actually and here’s how to sane-wash racism and lack of policy”
It was pretty much locked in anyway going by Bullock’s comments. High inflation is pretty much unavoidable at this stage.
It seems that the increase will be .5% this time
I think the inflation assessment here is a bit of a stretch. They’re equating a reduction in excise to inject cash into the economy, when in reality it’s probably just reducing the already inflated prices a little, but still a lot more than normal anyway, so, hardly a “cash injection”.
They are right about the demand side of things though. Absolutely insane that we would encourage people to purchase more fuel at a time where we’re seeing panic buying and shortages as a result of that. We need to address those assholes hoarding fuel first, before we start making it cheaper for them to hoard more. You can be sure, come April 1st, when (if?) prices drop, there will be queues of cars and trucks at servos all around the country, and those same shitcunts hoarding fuel will be filling up their jerry cans again now that it’s cheaper.
I’m confused why cutting these prices for everybody is a good idea at all. Prices are supposed to counteract demand when supply is short? Supply doesn’t magically increase by decreasing prices, demand may increase due to price decrease though.
It’s true people are suffering from the cost of living and this is a legitimate motivation, I hope they got their tradeoffs right because if they haven’t that suffering could be much worse no?
The problem is: supply is low. Reducing price does not fix it!
So:
1. not enough oil – not enough petrol
2. Price goes up – use reduces slightly
3. Reduce the excise – lower prices
4. Demand goes up again – vroom vroom
Repeat:
5. There is not enough oil/petrol
6. Price goes up again
I’d have been happy with leaving the price high if it meant there wasn’t gonna be another interest rate rise but I can see a couple at least before EoY. I doubt 20c/L price drop on fuel for a couple of months is gonna make a difference one way or another
People want him to do something about fuel prices
He does something about fuel prices
People are pissed he did something about fuel prices
Whats the worst thing that can happen from a Trump 2nd term? This, this shit storm of doubling fuel prices in a month from a war based on a Christian crusade and sending the world into a recession. Don’t blame Albo for trying to put a bandaid on a severed artery.
It’s ridiculous. By that logic the massive increase in energy costs should have acted like a rate rise and removed the need to increase rates recently.
The central banks are playing a very dangerous game right now. There are massive economic headwinds and inflation is unlikely to be the issue. Increasing interest rates and reducing the supply of money into an economic calamity is exactly what they did leading into the great depression. They need to read Ben Bernankies PHD. Reckless
We were getting another one anyway, how else are they going to lead us into recession !!
Targeted relief would have been better, as the fuel retailers are just gonna pump up the costs regardless. However, he has to do something so the public will stop busting his chops for things he can’t control.
Story aside, let’s see if this gets passed on at the pumps. I’m sceptical.
Damned if ya do and damned if ya don’t…
Alp don’t do something, everyones mad, they do the thing, everyone’s like why did they do it
I’m tired boss
Did the guardian just cement a rate hike by saying the rate hike is cemented?
If we get a rate hike we know who to blame now.