Much easier to underpay fresh immigrants and then rinse and repeat when they start getting all uppity than your own country’s workers who know their (rapidly eroding) rights.
anonskeptic5 on
Cause America First, right?
Direlion on
Fire Americans to hire foreigners. That’s the American way!
livingwellish on
Using H-1B to fill American jobs laid off is illegal. Visa workers can’t displace American workers. Justification of need for foreign workers required such as work skill not available.
bhenghisfudge on
You know, I’m starting to think that the Ellison’s might be the bad guys..
ionetic on
AI = actually India
MasterLJ on
Congress. Do something. Please.
This is not the intent nor the design of the H1-B system. Nor is it a critique of immigration. We need immigration. The H1-B program is a reasonable program when intent is clear. This is NOT reasonable use.
You cannot simultaneously claim that there are not enough domestic workers and lay off domestic workers.
turb0_encapsulator on
these are the people who put Trump in office.
beachtrader on
Should be a law that if you had layoffs in the last three years you are ineligible for any H-1B sponsorships.
CobaltFermi on
The tone of this article is misleading. It tries to imply that Oracle is firing while also applying for work visas. It’s highly likely, given the $100,000 H-1B fee for hiring overseas workers, that the vast majority of those visas were for non citizens who work for Oracle in the US. And it’s likely that those same non citizen employees are getting laid off. We can’t say for sure either way. Also, headcount reduction decisions like these are communicated abruptly so it’s not like the company was secretly scheming for this to happen.
spozzy on
The article title is sensationalist. The Visa applications were mostly in 2025 – before the mass layoff. There is no information about how many of those jobs were also laid off recently. There is also no information about which roles were filled and which roles were released from which teams. I’m all for holding up a pitchfork when people do unethical things but the title of the article seems to imply that the applications were filed after the layoffs which is just shitty journalism.
MonsieurKnife on
That’s a clear violation of H1-B by the way, but since they won’t even go after pedos they sure won’t go after that
quickspin_go on
The article is quite misleading. Obviously a rage/click bait. It makes a viewer think that oracle doing a mass layoff in the same time using H1B program to replace those who were laid off.
hello_everyone_555 on
12k were laid off by Oracle in India, in the recent round. Doesn’t make sense.
The loyalty of a billionaire on display everyone. Billionaires buy the media, buy the government and now have complete control of the military. Welcome to the end.
OkFineIllUseTheApp on
One
Rancid
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison
mog44net on
Fuck companies like this
MarcinTheMartian on
My manager (Software) told me they pay people abroad $35,000-50,000… for principal level engineers. No wonder everything is getting offshored.
FlyingBike on
I thought they weren’t allowed to apply for visa hires within 6 months of layoffs. Am I reading this wrong or misunderstanding something
argama87 on
Wow, Oracle continues to find new ways to be a giant POS.
asfsdgwe35r3asfdas23 on
What I don’t understand is why would you fill H-1B Visas and pay those people US salaries instead of just opening an office in Poland/Spain where you can get 5 engineers for the price of 1 H-1B salary.
blackmobius on
Oh look, more people using the H1b visa system to sidestep labor laws and fair pay. Shocking, I know!
NerdDaniel on
Assholes. This should be illegal.
Oracle has 30,000+ people to contact for potential hires.
RallyPointAlpha on
This is what worries me far more than AI taking my job. It’s been going on for decades and is increasing. Nothing against my H1-B homies, I understand they are pawns in this scheme, same as me. I love working with them. It’s the C suite & oligarchs I’m mad at. Â
Alkthree on
H1b is an existential threat to the American workforce. It is a good thing to have in place, but they need to overhaul the system so that it is extremely restrictive, heavily enforced, and only available when a U.S. citizen cannot fill the role.
the__blackest__rose on
H1b is a blatant scamÂ
zerors on
Corporations should not be allowed to hire foreigners, let alone anyone for a year after a layoff. Maybe the corporations would then try to repurpose their staff, instead of handling them like replaceable hardware.
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Much easier to underpay fresh immigrants and then rinse and repeat when they start getting all uppity than your own country’s workers who know their (rapidly eroding) rights.
Cause America First, right?
Fire Americans to hire foreigners. That’s the American way!
Using H-1B to fill American jobs laid off is illegal. Visa workers can’t displace American workers. Justification of need for foreign workers required such as work skill not available.
You know, I’m starting to think that the Ellison’s might be the bad guys..
AI = actually India
Congress. Do something. Please.
This is not the intent nor the design of the H1-B system. Nor is it a critique of immigration. We need immigration. The H1-B program is a reasonable program when intent is clear. This is NOT reasonable use.
You cannot simultaneously claim that there are not enough domestic workers and lay off domestic workers.
these are the people who put Trump in office.
Should be a law that if you had layoffs in the last three years you are ineligible for any H-1B sponsorships.
The tone of this article is misleading. It tries to imply that Oracle is firing while also applying for work visas. It’s highly likely, given the $100,000 H-1B fee for hiring overseas workers, that the vast majority of those visas were for non citizens who work for Oracle in the US. And it’s likely that those same non citizen employees are getting laid off. We can’t say for sure either way. Also, headcount reduction decisions like these are communicated abruptly so it’s not like the company was secretly scheming for this to happen.
The article title is sensationalist. The Visa applications were mostly in 2025 – before the mass layoff. There is no information about how many of those jobs were also laid off recently. There is also no information about which roles were filled and which roles were released from which teams. I’m all for holding up a pitchfork when people do unethical things but the title of the article seems to imply that the applications were filed after the layoffs which is just shitty journalism.
That’s a clear violation of H1-B by the way, but since they won’t even go after pedos they sure won’t go after that
The article is quite misleading. Obviously a rage/click bait. It makes a viewer think that oracle doing a mass layoff in the same time using H1B program to replace those who were laid off.
12k were laid off by Oracle in India, in the recent round. Doesn’t make sense.
Oracle lays off around 12,000 employees in India How this marks a wider pivot to AI https://share.google/XOnF9jbP5lcO3XtOX
The loyalty of a billionaire on display everyone. Billionaires buy the media, buy the government and now have complete control of the military. Welcome to the end.
One
Rancid
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison
Fuck companies like this
My manager (Software) told me they pay people abroad $35,000-50,000… for principal level engineers. No wonder everything is getting offshored.
I thought they weren’t allowed to apply for visa hires within 6 months of layoffs. Am I reading this wrong or misunderstanding something
Wow, Oracle continues to find new ways to be a giant POS.
What I don’t understand is why would you fill H-1B Visas and pay those people US salaries instead of just opening an office in Poland/Spain where you can get 5 engineers for the price of 1 H-1B salary.
Oh look, more people using the H1b visa system to sidestep labor laws and fair pay. Shocking, I know!
Assholes. This should be illegal.
Oracle has 30,000+ people to contact for potential hires.
This is what worries me far more than AI taking my job. It’s been going on for decades and is increasing. Nothing against my H1-B homies, I understand they are pawns in this scheme, same as me. I love working with them. It’s the C suite & oligarchs I’m mad at. Â
H1b is an existential threat to the American workforce. It is a good thing to have in place, but they need to overhaul the system so that it is extremely restrictive, heavily enforced, and only available when a U.S. citizen cannot fill the role.
H1b is a blatant scamÂ
Corporations should not be allowed to hire foreigners, let alone anyone for a year after a layoff. Maybe the corporations would then try to repurpose their staff, instead of handling them like replaceable hardware.