>She also uses AI when she has trouble turning her thoughts into words. “I want to comment, and I have this concept, but I don’t know how to formulate the sentence myself,” she said. So she asked a chatbot “to make it sound more cohesive.”
In classes I would feel embarrassed because I had a thought but it wasn’t elegant enough and sounded different from how I imagined myself saying it. Sometimes people shared thoughts in discussions but admitted that they had no idea where this is going, as they brainstormed aloud
ubcstaffer123 on
>AI-induced homogenization happens across three dimensions: language, perspective and reasoning strategies, the authors explained. That’s because AI models tend to reproduce what researchers call “WEIRD” viewpoints — Western, educated, industrialized, rich and democratic — even when explicitly prompted to represent other identities.
Would be interesting to see whether chatbots are used by students in other countries and what answers they get, whether it is in a Russian classroom or Indonesia
coffeeismydoc on
It makes you wonder about the parts of our voices and ways of writing that were developed by struggling with language, but no longer. All the vocab, sentence structure, and ability to structure thoughts could be lost.
AP_in_Indy on
I haven’t read the article yet but there’s so much good that can come out of being able to brainstorm in a “safe space” with something like ChatGPT.
There’s bad that can come out of it as well, but no one is afraid to ask dumb questions anymore because ChatGPT is not only non-judgmental, it’s incredibly reaffirming
Jani3D on
How convenient.
Gandhi_of_War on
I had a couple fairly rigorous college writing classes over a dozen years ago and am currently working on finishing a bachelors. There have been so many papers I’ve written that I feel will probably get a B, but I end up getting nearly full marks on them.
I’ve felt it was due to a few things: profs being pressured to pass more students, me being the ‘old guy’ in class, and more and more students using ai to write. That last one edges further into the lead every time I see classmates’ papers. It’s not even that they all sound similar. They all feel so devoid of character/soul. There’s just no individualism to them.
IceOnTitan on
Goodbye cognitive function and a generation of people able to critically think.
the_che on
> She also uses AI when she has trouble turning her thoughts into words.
Bitch, you are an Ivy League student. How did you get there if you’re having problems with that?
knotatumah on
I keep reading and people keep saying that they struggle or find ai helpful in a context where they feel incapable of producing something of value like a good written email. Then there are further articles that constantly cite how ai is making people.. dumber? Lose critical thought capacity? But in some way ai is blamed for reducing cognitive capacity. But this article and the comments have me wondering: is it really a lack of thought or is the streamlining of thought through ai gamifying the process of critical thinking where people are unknowingly playing into a new age hustle: the email they struggle to write today was perfectly fine 5 years ago but today with ai it is now seen as not good enough, that this message could be refined to meet a new social standard. And with the homogenization of language the more exposure people get the more they feel pressured to match the communication style leading to further frustration that they can’t write like the ai (though they most likely dont know it was written by ai) and thusly need ai to write it for them.
serskully on
I will forever be grateful I graduated college a year before this shit became mainstream.
BobQuixote on
I propose a Faraday cage for the classroom.
Jueavjkoirtycsaq on
lol. everyone is here talking about learning and growing and developing a voice! the whole system is rotten to the core. this is coming from a current student going to get into an Ivy.
Profs want A students with teaching A level classes. Students want As but they don’t want to put in the work. Top schools want top students but review them on a 2D level. Everyone is in on it and no one wants to talk about it.
It’s a complete joke. I’d give anything to truly feel as if I am accepted to learn and express myself as myself. They don’t want that. They never have.
Let’s give a quick mention to these institutions, they need good grades for publicity, financing, donations… to give themselves a pat on the back! They don’t want to deal with students, shit if admin staff had the option colleges would just be admin staff walking around pretending to do something.
It’s a joke. Sorry. It’s not AI.
cuntmong on
The slop generation
AthFish on
Nearly every single job , you have ceo and boss ask their workers to use ai , can’t blame student just giving up
BetSquare7190 on
Bring back hand written dissertations, completed in class. It will force people to study, learn and develop their reasoning skills.
jadedflames on
I’m glad I graduated before this tech. I can’t imagine having to choose between graduating with basically zero effort or struggling to keep up with the kids having the chatbot do everything for them.
Can you imagine how disheartening it would be to get a worse grade than someone who never did any of the work and just read off a gpt answer in class?
Omg, i just realized that AI is like our shared consciousness or something. Maybe a little dumbed down in some aspects. Huh.
Afvalracer on
Since braces came ordinary in the mid 90’s all faces started to have te same form.. the same straight jawlines,
HorseOk9732 on
honestly that part is kinda scary, because it’s not just the words, it’s the way people start thinking too. feels like everything turns into the same generic mush lol
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>She also uses AI when she has trouble turning her thoughts into words. “I want to comment, and I have this concept, but I don’t know how to formulate the sentence myself,” she said. So she asked a chatbot “to make it sound more cohesive.”
In classes I would feel embarrassed because I had a thought but it wasn’t elegant enough and sounded different from how I imagined myself saying it. Sometimes people shared thoughts in discussions but admitted that they had no idea where this is going, as they brainstormed aloud
>AI-induced homogenization happens across three dimensions: language, perspective and reasoning strategies, the authors explained. That’s because AI models tend to reproduce what researchers call “WEIRD” viewpoints — Western, educated, industrialized, rich and democratic — even when explicitly prompted to represent other identities.
Would be interesting to see whether chatbots are used by students in other countries and what answers they get, whether it is in a Russian classroom or Indonesia
It makes you wonder about the parts of our voices and ways of writing that were developed by struggling with language, but no longer. All the vocab, sentence structure, and ability to structure thoughts could be lost.
I haven’t read the article yet but there’s so much good that can come out of being able to brainstorm in a “safe space” with something like ChatGPT.
There’s bad that can come out of it as well, but no one is afraid to ask dumb questions anymore because ChatGPT is not only non-judgmental, it’s incredibly reaffirming
How convenient.
I had a couple fairly rigorous college writing classes over a dozen years ago and am currently working on finishing a bachelors. There have been so many papers I’ve written that I feel will probably get a B, but I end up getting nearly full marks on them.
I’ve felt it was due to a few things: profs being pressured to pass more students, me being the ‘old guy’ in class, and more and more students using ai to write. That last one edges further into the lead every time I see classmates’ papers. It’s not even that they all sound similar. They all feel so devoid of character/soul. There’s just no individualism to them.
Goodbye cognitive function and a generation of people able to critically think.
> She also uses AI when she has trouble turning her thoughts into words.
Bitch, you are an Ivy League student. How did you get there if you’re having problems with that?
I keep reading and people keep saying that they struggle or find ai helpful in a context where they feel incapable of producing something of value like a good written email. Then there are further articles that constantly cite how ai is making people.. dumber? Lose critical thought capacity? But in some way ai is blamed for reducing cognitive capacity. But this article and the comments have me wondering: is it really a lack of thought or is the streamlining of thought through ai gamifying the process of critical thinking where people are unknowingly playing into a new age hustle: the email they struggle to write today was perfectly fine 5 years ago but today with ai it is now seen as not good enough, that this message could be refined to meet a new social standard. And with the homogenization of language the more exposure people get the more they feel pressured to match the communication style leading to further frustration that they can’t write like the ai (though they most likely dont know it was written by ai) and thusly need ai to write it for them.
I will forever be grateful I graduated college a year before this shit became mainstream.
I propose a Faraday cage for the classroom.
lol. everyone is here talking about learning and growing and developing a voice! the whole system is rotten to the core. this is coming from a current student going to get into an Ivy.
Profs want A students with teaching A level classes. Students want As but they don’t want to put in the work. Top schools want top students but review them on a 2D level. Everyone is in on it and no one wants to talk about it.
It’s a complete joke. I’d give anything to truly feel as if I am accepted to learn and express myself as myself. They don’t want that. They never have.
Let’s give a quick mention to these institutions, they need good grades for publicity, financing, donations… to give themselves a pat on the back! They don’t want to deal with students, shit if admin staff had the option colleges would just be admin staff walking around pretending to do something.
It’s a joke. Sorry. It’s not AI.
The slop generation
Nearly every single job , you have ceo and boss ask their workers to use ai , can’t blame student just giving up
Bring back hand written dissertations, completed in class. It will force people to study, learn and develop their reasoning skills.
I’m glad I graduated before this tech. I can’t imagine having to choose between graduating with basically zero effort or struggling to keep up with the kids having the chatbot do everything for them.
Can you imagine how disheartening it would be to get a worse grade than someone who never did any of the work and just read off a gpt answer in class?
Makes me think of this recent study on people using fewer words in general, 338 spoken words per year. https://news.arizona.edu/news/are-we-talking-less-qa-psychologist-matthias-mehl
Omg, i just realized that AI is like our shared consciousness or something. Maybe a little dumbed down in some aspects. Huh.
Since braces came ordinary in the mid 90’s all faces started to have te same form.. the same straight jawlines,
honestly that part is kinda scary, because it’s not just the words, it’s the way people start thinking too. feels like everything turns into the same generic mush lol