‘NATO not obliged to reopen the Strait,’ Turkey’s trade minister tells Euronews
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/nato-not-obliged-reopen-strait-075004316.html
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‘NATO not obliged to reopen the Strait,’ Turkey’s trade minister tells Euronews
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/nato-not-obliged-reopen-strait-075004316.html
Posted by Necessary_Pie2464
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Gotto give it to trump, he really made us realize just how much we got in common with other countries.
47s not gonna be happy with that… NATO’s history I guess.
Then what? Israel in conflict with Turkey in a few years?
Where does this horror show stops?
You know the timeline is seriously fucked up when Turkey’s government is the one talking sense.
Wish Rutte would say this smh.
There is one country that could help reopen the straight, but I am told they’re too busy bombing Lebanon.
Apparently, Israel stopping their attack is not even an option for the White House. They’d rather keep trying to blame NATO and the EU who were opposed to all this shitshow in the first place.
This shows that NATO members don’t always agree on how to handle every conflict. A unified response is hard because of different strategic interests.
Not only not obliged, but NATO has nothing to do with places not specifically mentioned in the treaty. The strait in question is adjacent to the Indian ocean and is not part of the territory of any of NATO’s members.
It is a problem created entirely and exclussively by the USA and neither EU nor NATO at large has any reason to get involved in USA’s personal shit decisions.
What does NATO has to do with the strait at this point?
NATO is a defensive alliance. If Americans are happy to die for Israel’s interest, let them be. But dont involve NATO
Rutte is trying to keep NATO together by sucking up to Trump. At some point though NATO countries will tell the US it’s fine. Withdraw your 60 thousand troops. Leave NATO bases, leave command positions, leave your places from where operations in Africa and the Middle east are coordinated. Take your nuclear missiles too.
Anyone understands that such an operation is very very costly. It would terribly weaken the US. It would take years. In that time European partners will have to replace those soldiers and positions. Replace US infrastructure including the nuclear umbrella, intelligence etc. That would put a burden on those countries but it’s doable. Preparations in Europe have been going on for a while now. They have sped up a few times too. Greenland comes to mind. Most difficult is to find a political command that’s agile enough for large scale conflict.
In some ways this is the neighbor that’s using our shed in our garden. The neighbor sometimes does some jobs for us. But lately he’s mostly just doing work for his own house. That house doesn’t look great either. Now he’s threatening to leave our shed in our garden. OK.
The US leaving NATO and Europe will make for a European NATO and a weakened US with less projection power. It’s just the instable period in between that has the risks. But a large scale withdrawal of 60.000 troops takes time.
Turkiye isn’t what they try to portray themselves as, if money is involved they’ll betray their muslin brothers, Israel could be stopped dead in its tracks if Turkiye turned off their crude oil, Turkiye has a pipeline that feeds israel with crude oil from Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan
1.5 month ago it wasn’t closed… I wonder what happened? America happened…
I wonder what European countries are thinking about all this right now I can probably guess that most of not all will say no I’m not joining
Of course not. This discussion needs to be put to an end now. It’s unbelievable how the Americans are allowing this circus to keep going.
Trump is asking Nato countries to assist. It does not have to mean Nato. God we love BS in the media. Reality be damned!.
PLove
Trump rejected a deal with Iran giving money for not developing nukes, and instead spent billions bombing Iran, threatening, (and commiting), war crimes. The peace treaty is now offering money to Iran for not developing nukes, AND allowing Iran to claim shipping toll for sailing the strait of Hormuz….
The great deal maker is once again proving his brilliance.
well, yes, it’s america who started it together with israel
so no, nato has no cards to play there
The solution to opening the Hormuz Strait isn’t to escalate the war by bringing more countries into an armed conflict that will destroy even more vital oil producing infrastructure.
No one wanted this unnecessary war, nothing has been achieved so far and the longer this goes on the worse it’ll be for everyone.
America needs to get a grip, rein in bestest buddy Israel and extricate themselves. A diplomatic solution is the only visible course here.
Demented Donny never changed his own diaper once in his life, it’s not surprising he wants someone he fancies his suborditate to clean the shit for him.
Why would it be? is not NATO who declared war on Iran and it’s not NATO’s responsability to clean Trump’s mess, no matter how much is Donald raging and screaming.
He doesn’t give a shit about what happens in Europe and Ukraine, but somehow Europe must give a shit about what happens in Middle East.
Maybe the US should have consulted its allies on a wider strategy and considered the Iranian opposition and populace as an asset instead of blindly bombing everything and hoping that would get you anywhere, and then cry out for help for the shit you started
Then prepare to pay high energy prices and let a tyrant country (Iran) control your economic situation. Good luck
America doesn’t even want to support Ukraine which doesn’t even require a war and directly helps NATO security and weakens the main threat Russia, but somehow everyone in NATO is wrong for not partaking in a pointless offensive war somewhere else.
Both the USA and Israel has attacked Iran. It has nothing to do with NATO. Trump asking for help from NATO shows how deep he is with Russian propagandists.
Maybe we can make this guy the Secretary General instead of Mark “always ready to bend over for Daddy” Rutte
the orange man’s “board of piss” should have taken care of this new war. Shouldn’t the members complain they are not getting their money’s value
Turkey will be very wary of an US+Israel without the US being in NATO. Israel vs Turkey is shaping up to be the endgame of the middle east so far