Map of “152 disputed islands, islets and rocks in the Aegean Sea which were not ceded to Greece by international treaties” (in yellow) according to Türkiye
Map of “152 disputed islands, islets and rocks in the Aegean Sea which were not ceded to Greece by international treaties” (in yellow) according to Türkiye
Also inhabitable & thus, doesn’t get to have maritime claims according to UN.
Though it’s known that greece is artifically trying to populate this islands (by showing military as civilians) to claim more EEZ.
ColdArticle on
“according to Türkiye” ?
Who says otherwise?
Hammonia on
Most of the islands in the south were italian until after ww2 and they were cede to greece. So shouldn‘t it be clear for those at least?
Technetium_97 on
It seems like Turkey’s claim is that while the treaties gave Greece literally every single mildly important island, the less important islands weren’t mentioned and therefore belong to Turkey.
EvilInGood on
As a Turk, I see no point in this dispute. Those islands are Greek. It seems like the treaty has not made it clear by mentioning only bigger or important islands but that doesn’t change the reality for the smaller ones.
iboreddd on
That’s wrong. Turkey doesn’t have that kind of claims for “152” islands. You mixed up all the stuff
fanbarullo on
Turquía siempre tocando los 🍳🍳
bellerinho on
These islands and rocks are all rightful Albanian clay 🇦🇱🇦🇱🦅🦅
Inevitable-Push-8061 on
It literally says “sovereignty unclear” in Turkish, not that Turks claim those islets. Rather, they were not explicitly mentioned in international treaties, especially in the case of some of the “Italian” islets ceded to Greece after World War II. Afaik, some of them were never explicitly or officially given to Italy by the Ottomans in international treaties to begin with.
KaminBoiBambi on
Mfw give a rock 20 mile radius maritime territory
KingKohishi on
Turkey is the direct inheritor of the Ottoman Empire, therefore any territory that is not named in the treaties still belong to them.
Eris13x on
Lol. Lmao even
CommercialNo4537 on
Anatolia was never ceded by the Greeks in international treaties 🤔🤔🤔
kwizzle on
You know the Greeks didn’t cede all of Anatolia or Constantinople by treaty either…
maliku7 on
Treaty says any islands beyond 3 miles is Greek. Turkey comes up with something stupid every few years.
CharlieFB1907 on
most of those island should have gifted to greeks in the first place.
Rattus_NorvegicUwUs on
Funny, because Anatolia was Greek for a thousand+ years before the Turks migrated and invaded
petasisg on
The 1923 Treaty of Lausanne (article 12) says that all islands of Eastern Mediterranean belong to Greece, with the exception of Imbros, Tenedos, and the Rabbit Islands. It also says that islands within three miles of the Asian coast (unless otherwise specified in the treaty) stayed under Turkish control.
So everything further than 3 miles does not belong to Turkey.
cjt09 on
My boys and I are gonna claim these in the name of the Senate and People of Rome, and we will use it as a launch pad for our glorious reconquest of the Mediterranean.
Pedroooou on
Altis and Stratis
technotronica on
Yeah sure, nice try 🦃
Iapetus404 on
The Treaty of Lausanne (July 24, 1923) defined the Greek-Turkish borders,
Dodecanese: Article 15,c1. **Turkey renounces in favor of Italy all titles and rights to the following islands: Astypalaia, Rhodes, Chalki, Karpathos, Kasos, Tilos, Nisyros, Kalymnos, Leros, Patmos, Lipsi, Symi and Kos, which are now occupied by Italy and the islets dependent on them, as well as the island of Kastellorizo.**
East Aegean Islands and islets. Article 12 …….. **”The islands, which lie within three miles of the Asian coast, remain under Turkish sovereignty.”**
Any one with few brain cells and minimum IQ, can understand that more of 2000 islands and islets cant be mentioned and written in detail one by one in a treaty.
Because Turkey in past has violated the treaty with the pogrom and deportation of the Greek population of Constantinople,Imbros and Tenedos…they think that they do again.
**If someone doesn’t respect the signature they put in, they also put in their own words as a winners…then they are unworthy as a person or as a society or as a nation.**
BasKabelas on
Turkey has some wild claims. Im sure theres arguments for each but going by that mentality Greece could just drop a map of Turkey and it not having been ceeded by Macedon or international treaties. If anything Greece vs Turkey has some top tier mud slinging which often reminds me of their balkan neighbors lol.
forwheels on
If a Turkish nationalist sees the word map ..he will 99% of the time post shit like this
SuperPatsavouras on
Classic Turkish stupidity. ” We want the other’s land because we can’t fix our own problems ”
Iam_no_Nilfgaardian on
ColdArticle on
It might sound like spam, but let me add this here too: I think some people are confused.
The Treaty of Lausanne lists all the islands that were ceded, but these islands are not included in it, nor are the islands give Italy. That’s why the 1947 Paris Agreement was made. They are not included there either. What you’re saying contradicts international law.
You need to read the entire agreement, not just a part of it.
GoldenTheTurk on
Makes more sense than either of sides claiming the entire fucking sea
No_Box3626 on
Turkey will never stop doing this, they wanna conquer everything atp 🤦♂️🤦♂️
BekanntesteZiege on
This isn’t a real gov document and you can’t source this.
Atarosek on
Are any of these islands important in some way?
TheOneWithTheNephews on
Cope and seethe
Apocrypha667 on
Non-Europeans trying to get some EU land…
Peter_Triantafulou on
But what does Turkey think of Kastelorizo? I don’t see it on the map.
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Also inhabitable & thus, doesn’t get to have maritime claims according to UN.
Though it’s known that greece is artifically trying to populate this islands (by showing military as civilians) to claim more EEZ.
“according to Türkiye” ?
Who says otherwise?
Most of the islands in the south were italian until after ww2 and they were cede to greece. So shouldn‘t it be clear for those at least?
It seems like Turkey’s claim is that while the treaties gave Greece literally every single mildly important island, the less important islands weren’t mentioned and therefore belong to Turkey.
As a Turk, I see no point in this dispute. Those islands are Greek. It seems like the treaty has not made it clear by mentioning only bigger or important islands but that doesn’t change the reality for the smaller ones.
That’s wrong. Turkey doesn’t have that kind of claims for “152” islands. You mixed up all the stuff
Turquía siempre tocando los 🍳🍳
These islands and rocks are all rightful Albanian clay 🇦🇱🇦🇱🦅🦅
It literally says “sovereignty unclear” in Turkish, not that Turks claim those islets. Rather, they were not explicitly mentioned in international treaties, especially in the case of some of the “Italian” islets ceded to Greece after World War II. Afaik, some of them were never explicitly or officially given to Italy by the Ottomans in international treaties to begin with.
Mfw give a rock 20 mile radius maritime territory
Turkey is the direct inheritor of the Ottoman Empire, therefore any territory that is not named in the treaties still belong to them.
Lol. Lmao even
Anatolia was never ceded by the Greeks in international treaties 🤔🤔🤔
You know the Greeks didn’t cede all of Anatolia or Constantinople by treaty either…
Treaty says any islands beyond 3 miles is Greek. Turkey comes up with something stupid every few years.
most of those island should have gifted to greeks in the first place.
Funny, because Anatolia was Greek for a thousand+ years before the Turks migrated and invaded
The 1923 Treaty of Lausanne (article 12) says that all islands of Eastern Mediterranean belong to Greece, with the exception of Imbros, Tenedos, and the Rabbit Islands. It also says that islands within three miles of the Asian coast (unless otherwise specified in the treaty) stayed under Turkish control.
So everything further than 3 miles does not belong to Turkey.
My boys and I are gonna claim these in the name of the Senate and People of Rome, and we will use it as a launch pad for our glorious reconquest of the Mediterranean.
Altis and Stratis
Yeah sure, nice try 🦃
The Treaty of Lausanne (July 24, 1923) defined the Greek-Turkish borders,
Dodecanese: Article 15,c1. **Turkey renounces in favor of Italy all titles and rights to the following islands: Astypalaia, Rhodes, Chalki, Karpathos, Kasos, Tilos, Nisyros, Kalymnos, Leros, Patmos, Lipsi, Symi and Kos, which are now occupied by Italy and the islets dependent on them, as well as the island of Kastellorizo.**
East Aegean Islands and islets. Article 12 …….. **”The islands, which lie within three miles of the Asian coast, remain under Turkish sovereignty.”**
Any one with few brain cells and minimum IQ, can understand that more of 2000 islands and islets cant be mentioned and written in detail one by one in a treaty.
Because Turkey in past has violated the treaty with the pogrom and deportation of the Greek population of Constantinople,Imbros and Tenedos…they think that they do again.
**If someone doesn’t respect the signature they put in, they also put in their own words as a winners…then they are unworthy as a person or as a society or as a nation.**
Turkey has some wild claims. Im sure theres arguments for each but going by that mentality Greece could just drop a map of Turkey and it not having been ceeded by Macedon or international treaties. If anything Greece vs Turkey has some top tier mud slinging which often reminds me of their balkan neighbors lol.
If a Turkish nationalist sees the word map ..he will 99% of the time post shit like this
Classic Turkish stupidity. ” We want the other’s land because we can’t fix our own problems ”
It might sound like spam, but let me add this here too: I think some people are confused.
The Treaty of Lausanne lists all the islands that were ceded, but these islands are not included in it, nor are the islands give Italy. That’s why the 1947 Paris Agreement was made. They are not included there either. What you’re saying contradicts international law.
You need to read the entire agreement, not just a part of it.
Makes more sense than either of sides claiming the entire fucking sea
Turkey will never stop doing this, they wanna conquer everything atp 🤦♂️🤦♂️
This isn’t a real gov document and you can’t source this.
Are any of these islands important in some way?
Cope and seethe
Non-Europeans trying to get some EU land…
But what does Turkey think of Kastelorizo? I don’t see it on the map.
Turkey needs to touch grass