Doug Ford may very well be the most scrutinized person in Ontario, debatable but possible.
It is also true that no one else in Ontario has the ability to blow $29M taxdollars on a whimsy.
Still, I can see why Doug needs special transport. He is the Premier and should have that extra.
But it can be done with existing stock, no need to buy him his own toy.
And if the response is that it can’t be done with existing stock then I say that is where the problem lies, the idea that the government can’t get it’s act together long enough to arrange transport for the premier.
Maybe he was gonna fly it through the tunnel he was gonna build under the 401 ?
You can almost *hear* the Trump-style whiny tone just by reading this headline, it’s amazing. If Ford is displeased by the level of scrutiny under which he finds himself, he could perhaps consider reducing his egregiously-screaming-for-scrutiny shenanigans just a little bit? We could all use a break, especially him, I don’t know how he finds enough hours in the day for all the scamming.
differing on
He could have funded a full time NP in every urban ER in Ontario with that kind of cash, slashing wait times for care. It’s such an insane waste of money considering the low hanging unaddressed challenges we have.
Scase15 on
Change the name ford to Trump, and Canada to USA and you wouldn’t know the difference. He’s gonna sell it to a friend for less than was paid, and then claim it to a “win”.
WillSRobs on
He compared his 30 million dollar jet to the federal jets (for transatlantic flights) bought to ferry government officials, bring home wounded soldiers, assist in humanitarian missions. Or the Quebec planes meant for hospital trips…
This dude is fucking stupid and he thinks everyone else is dumber than he is.
They are literally hoping people in this province don’t realize Ontario already owns planes for this and why does he need a plane that can go to the uk for travelling in Ontario.
TheFutureMrGittes on
If he acted in the people’s interest maybe the scrutiny wouldn’t be so intense. But everything he does is to line his own pockets and those of his friends. It’s so blatantly obvious. And he hates having it pointed out. No wonder he likes Trump so much.
SasquatchsBigDick on
Sir, you are spending 30 million tax payer dollars on a jet during a time of economic uncertainty. Our largest trade partner was JUST threatening us with economic takeover. Yes, we will scrutinize you spending 30 million dollars on an unnecessary extravagance. Read the room.
ShadowPages on
The man who made his entire political brand on yelling about ‘Stop the Gravy Train!’ is upset when he decides he wants his own Gravy Plane?
GavinTheAlmighty on
scrutinizing the financial decisions of the person responsible for a $160bn budget who also has an integrity commissioner finding against him demonstrating that he used the power of his office to enrich his personal business is good, actually
kurisutinaaa on
Doug Ford will never feel any sense of remorse for his blatant and near constant abuse of his office for enriching himself and his buddies. He might however respond better if we all started framing this more personally: his corruption and waste has rendered him a shadow of his late brother, and every day he continues to taint his legacy. Rob Ford had something that Doug Ford seemingly never will: principals. Rob Ford demonstrated an obsessive single minded commitment to his principals and stopping that gravy train no matter the cost was a hallmark of his tenure in Toronto…
…all that said, his principals were extremely stupid and shortsighted, just like him and his brother, but he sure did have them!
EarthWarping on
It was interesting in that presser he said aside from the prime minister when criticizing the federal government which shows hes in lockstep with Carney.
Probably not a good reaction at CPC HQ when they hear those things from Ford.
However this presser was beyond complaining even for Ford standards.
SomeDumRedditor on
This from the man currently leading a party passing legislation designed entirely to protect him and his government from being investigated.
Open_Painting63 on
No one really buys thirty million dollar jets either. I’ve spoke to him on the phone and he’s used the term “no one’s done anything like it” which really turned me off
FriendshipOk6223 on
Lol—“no one in Canada is scrutinized like he is,” yet he could disappear for weeks without much notice, and the media largely gives him a pass on corruption issues associated with his government.
stoneape314 on
Wah wah wah, baby doesn’t like dealing with natural consequences of being the better part of a decade incumbent.
AND doing a ton of shady shit.
tbtc-7777 on
Some reporter should say, okay we admit it. You’re scrutinized. Because of your access to the public treasury. Now what’s up with the private jet?
FoxyInTheSnow on
Interesting. My wife is an academic at a public university. She is a complete stickler for compliance.
A few years ago she was approached by the comptroller’s office about an egg salad sandwich she claimed on her expense form while at a conference. She’d bought it 17 minutes outside of the allowed period.
A nine dollar sandwich. This fucker bought a jet plane.
CroakerBC on
I mean, look. Maybe a jet is a good purchase. Maybe the Premier of Canada’s largest province spends a shedload on commercial flights or private charters to Timmins or whatever. I don’t know.
But if you’re going to *buy* a private jet, you’d better know. You’d better be able to say “This will be cheaper over the lifespan of the aircraft and here’s the receipts to prove it.” Or at the very least “It won’t be cheaper but here’s a bunch of places (say in Northern Ontario resource extraction) it would be useful to get to as Premier that are hard to reach, and that added convenience makes up for the higher direct cost”.
Ford has done none of this. He’s scrutinised because he is entirely unwilling to back up a lot of his louder public policy moments, and people realise that.
Nomadic_Heartbeat on
What is he smoking?
The PM’s official residence hasn’t been refurbished/rebuilt for decades since no one wanted to appear to be spending money on themselves.
What does Ford need a jet for, in order to travel around Ontario?
DatHoneyBadger on
I’m far from a Doug Ford fan but at least he backed off on it and admitted defeat.. Far from what many other politicians are doing these days.
The Deputy Defense Minister for instance doubled down on her conflict of interest accusations – the audacity is unreal.
ChimoEngr on
> “But when I do it, I guess there’s a double standard.”
Not really. He’s premier of our largest province, economically, geographically and population wise. That alone means he’s going to get a lot of scrutiny. When you consider all the shady and odd things he’s done and the scrutiny only rachets up. Carney as PM probably has more scrutiny from the media, but he’s less inclined to blatant corruption, so doesn’t get called out as much or as hard. Ford is complaining about the consequences of his actions.
> , adding that he’s flown on charter flights “for six years.”
And why did he see the need to change that? Which goes back to Ford’s point about needing to explain this purchase in advance. Since that’s SOP for a competent government, how incompetent is this one for not doing that?
Electrical-Risk445 on
Being held to account is only being scrutinized if what you do warrants being scrutinized. Like buying yourself a private jet with public money.
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Doug Ford may very well be the most scrutinized person in Ontario, debatable but possible.
It is also true that no one else in Ontario has the ability to blow $29M taxdollars on a whimsy.
Still, I can see why Doug needs special transport. He is the Premier and should have that extra.
But it can be done with existing stock, no need to buy him his own toy.
And if the response is that it can’t be done with existing stock then I say that is where the problem lies, the idea that the government can’t get it’s act together long enough to arrange transport for the premier.
Maybe he was gonna fly it through the tunnel he was gonna build under the 401 ?
What about the good old Ab Gov? (Alison Redford)
[Alberta government sells three aircraft for $6.1 million | Edmonton Journal](https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/alberta-government-sells-three-aircraft-for-6-1-million)
You can almost *hear* the Trump-style whiny tone just by reading this headline, it’s amazing. If Ford is displeased by the level of scrutiny under which he finds himself, he could perhaps consider reducing his egregiously-screaming-for-scrutiny shenanigans just a little bit? We could all use a break, especially him, I don’t know how he finds enough hours in the day for all the scamming.
He could have funded a full time NP in every urban ER in Ontario with that kind of cash, slashing wait times for care. It’s such an insane waste of money considering the low hanging unaddressed challenges we have.
Change the name ford to Trump, and Canada to USA and you wouldn’t know the difference. He’s gonna sell it to a friend for less than was paid, and then claim it to a “win”.
He compared his 30 million dollar jet to the federal jets (for transatlantic flights) bought to ferry government officials, bring home wounded soldiers, assist in humanitarian missions. Or the Quebec planes meant for hospital trips…
This dude is fucking stupid and he thinks everyone else is dumber than he is.
They are literally hoping people in this province don’t realize Ontario already owns planes for this and why does he need a plane that can go to the uk for travelling in Ontario.
If he acted in the people’s interest maybe the scrutiny wouldn’t be so intense. But everything he does is to line his own pockets and those of his friends. It’s so blatantly obvious. And he hates having it pointed out. No wonder he likes Trump so much.
Sir, you are spending 30 million tax payer dollars on a jet during a time of economic uncertainty. Our largest trade partner was JUST threatening us with economic takeover. Yes, we will scrutinize you spending 30 million dollars on an unnecessary extravagance. Read the room.
The man who made his entire political brand on yelling about ‘Stop the Gravy Train!’ is upset when he decides he wants his own Gravy Plane?
scrutinizing the financial decisions of the person responsible for a $160bn budget who also has an integrity commissioner finding against him demonstrating that he used the power of his office to enrich his personal business is good, actually
Doug Ford will never feel any sense of remorse for his blatant and near constant abuse of his office for enriching himself and his buddies. He might however respond better if we all started framing this more personally: his corruption and waste has rendered him a shadow of his late brother, and every day he continues to taint his legacy. Rob Ford had something that Doug Ford seemingly never will: principals. Rob Ford demonstrated an obsessive single minded commitment to his principals and stopping that gravy train no matter the cost was a hallmark of his tenure in Toronto…
…all that said, his principals were extremely stupid and shortsighted, just like him and his brother, but he sure did have them!
It was interesting in that presser he said aside from the prime minister when criticizing the federal government which shows hes in lockstep with Carney.
Probably not a good reaction at CPC HQ when they hear those things from Ford.
However this presser was beyond complaining even for Ford standards.
This from the man currently leading a party passing legislation designed entirely to protect him and his government from being investigated.
No one really buys thirty million dollar jets either. I’ve spoke to him on the phone and he’s used the term “no one’s done anything like it” which really turned me off
Lol—“no one in Canada is scrutinized like he is,” yet he could disappear for weeks without much notice, and the media largely gives him a pass on corruption issues associated with his government.
Wah wah wah, baby doesn’t like dealing with natural consequences of being the better part of a decade incumbent.
AND doing a ton of shady shit.
Some reporter should say, okay we admit it. You’re scrutinized. Because of your access to the public treasury. Now what’s up with the private jet?
Interesting. My wife is an academic at a public university. She is a complete stickler for compliance.
A few years ago she was approached by the comptroller’s office about an egg salad sandwich she claimed on her expense form while at a conference. She’d bought it 17 minutes outside of the allowed period.
A nine dollar sandwich. This fucker bought a jet plane.
I mean, look. Maybe a jet is a good purchase. Maybe the Premier of Canada’s largest province spends a shedload on commercial flights or private charters to Timmins or whatever. I don’t know.
But if you’re going to *buy* a private jet, you’d better know. You’d better be able to say “This will be cheaper over the lifespan of the aircraft and here’s the receipts to prove it.” Or at the very least “It won’t be cheaper but here’s a bunch of places (say in Northern Ontario resource extraction) it would be useful to get to as Premier that are hard to reach, and that added convenience makes up for the higher direct cost”.
Ford has done none of this. He’s scrutinised because he is entirely unwilling to back up a lot of his louder public policy moments, and people realise that.
What is he smoking?
The PM’s official residence hasn’t been refurbished/rebuilt for decades since no one wanted to appear to be spending money on themselves.
What does Ford need a jet for, in order to travel around Ontario?
I’m far from a Doug Ford fan but at least he backed off on it and admitted defeat.. Far from what many other politicians are doing these days.
The Deputy Defense Minister for instance doubled down on her conflict of interest accusations – the audacity is unreal.
> “But when I do it, I guess there’s a double standard.”
Not really. He’s premier of our largest province, economically, geographically and population wise. That alone means he’s going to get a lot of scrutiny. When you consider all the shady and odd things he’s done and the scrutiny only rachets up. Carney as PM probably has more scrutiny from the media, but he’s less inclined to blatant corruption, so doesn’t get called out as much or as hard. Ford is complaining about the consequences of his actions.
> , adding that he’s flown on charter flights “for six years.”
And why did he see the need to change that? Which goes back to Ford’s point about needing to explain this purchase in advance. Since that’s SOP for a competent government, how incompetent is this one for not doing that?
Being held to account is only being scrutinized if what you do warrants being scrutinized. Like buying yourself a private jet with public money.